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Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Tony
Date: Dec 4, 2006 15:53

Huv qaab nuav yog sau pub rua B2BH, Xejthim, hab tsoom phooj ywg kws
xaav paub txug has tas ib tsev tuab neeg ntseeg Vaajtswv, pawg ntseeg,
hab sej zog koom tej ntaa lub nteeg yog moog le caag.

My brothers, the local church leaders, and pastor had arranged the
funeral by designating groups to over see the funeral ritual on behalf
of our brothers and families. The funeral ritual activity would...
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Dec 4, 2006 16:56

Tony,

thanks, i'm still no clear about what you were talking about, because
you were only see the outside of the ritual--you did not get into the
inside of each step and to why.

did you have txiv dablaug, and muaj phauj too? did you have Thawj
xyomcuab too. did they sit around the table and discussed about your
mom's life from she entered into your dad's life? next time, you should
play the pivotal role from the inside out, so we all can understand
each other better--because just discussed as a general as you stated
above, that is typical hmong way of life anywhere.

again, thanks for sharing i too learned some thing new from you and
your effort.

B2BH
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Tony
Date: Dec 4, 2006 18:14

Born2beHmong wrote:
> Tony,
>
> thanks, i'm still no clear about what you were talking about, because
> you were only see the outside of the ritual--you did not get into the
> inside of each step and to why.

The steps were the work of the church and elders. They arranged, thawj
xyom cuab, tshwj kaab, kaav xwm, nam ua mov, txiv hlais nqaj and all
that requires to carry out the funeral ritual.
> did you have txiv dablaug, and muaj phauj too? did you have Thawj
> xyomcuab too. did they sit around the table and discussed about your
> mom's life from she entered into your dad's life? next time, you should
> play the pivotal role from the inside out, so we all can understand
> each other better--because just discussed as a general as you stated
> above, that is typical hmong way of life anywhere.

Haha! kuv luag ob suab xwb. You forgot to read carefully my Hmong at
the end. We eliminated lub rooj by replacing it with my mom's lagacy
which our family delivered rather than have the know how do it.
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Dec 4, 2006 18:27

smlies...yog li koj tseem tsi tau qhia tag, ces koj tseem tsi tau paub
meej pem--vim hais tias, koj twb tsi mloog kom tag es--lub funeral kuv
mus tag no los, lawv yeej tsi muaj lub rooj table tim funeral home.
tabsi lawv coj los ua ib paj ntxua es hais cov thawj ntawd los saum sib
tham txog lub neej.

nowadays, the legacy thing is a normal procees for every dead person,
unless it's too young to have a point to do so!

B2BH
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Dec 4, 2006 18:28

oooopps! forgot, nej puas ua cov neeg ua nqa nyiaj tuaj tsaug thiab!
los nej cia li ua li donation, as set an account rau neeg donation tuaj
rau nws lus service xwb?
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Tony
Date: Dec 4, 2006 18:43

Born2beHmong,

Kuv luag ob suab xwb os.

Koj tsi nyeem kuv cov sob lug zoo koj txhaj le tsi to taub. Peb tsi ua
lub rooj lawm. Qhov ntawd, peb muab lug ua peb tsev tuab neeg le lug
has txug kuv nam lub neej rua tej txiv dlaab lug moog rua tsoom kwv tij
neej tsaa tau nov txug ob tug lub neej hab tej kev sis hlub.

Thawj xyom cuab yeej ua tsaug rua tej kwv tij neej tsaa kws nqaa nyaj,
npaaj lub sib hawm tuaj hlub, tuaj paab hlub huv tuab si. Qhov peb tsi
ua yog peb tsi pe xwb.

Lwm zag, koj moog saib lwm le nua ces saib seb lwm puab ua le caag es
txhob saib le koj xaav paub xwb es koj txhaj le pum le lwm pum nawb.
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Dec 4, 2006 19:10

koj mas, kuv twb mus saib los kiag lawm es thiaj li noog ua luaj li no,
seb lawv ua puas tsawg hom church es hos coj li cas mas.

kuv mus saib mas, lawv hus hauv qhua tag nrho, yeej qhia meej meej hais
tias--tsi paub nqa xyab nqa ntawv, thiab qaib tuaj lawm ntag--vim mus
kev cai church lawm no os.

lawv hus muam phauj- tua ib tug nyuj

lawv muab ib tug nyuj rau Thawjxyomcuab tua

lawv hus txiv dablaug tuaj nrog saib, txiv dablaug tua ib tug nyuj pab
thiab.

kev ua tsaug ces yeej ua kiag li hmoob ua ntag, tus hos hais tau me me
lus nta dab nta qhua lawm los vim yog cov qhua ces kav liam.

cov mus church thiab cov txwjlaug thiab kavxwm ua yog cov mus church
los yeej nrog peb pe tagnrho, thaum ua qov qhua ua luag nqa nyiaj tuaj
peb peb.

tseem los rau pepsi rau tom tsev, tsi yog tim funeral home nawb--los ua
kev sib tham, rau thawjxyomcuab, muam phauj, txiv dablaug thiab kavxwm.
tseem los noog kiag li hmoob noog kev li noobneej hod....
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Author: phwvnyawm
Date: Dec 4, 2006 23:34

B2BH.....aw,

Me kwv ..aw ... cov ua li koj hais ko ces kuv saib yog koj tij laug
Phwvnyawm lawv cov Catholic lawm ntag.Peb tseem muaj cov tub qa,tub num
ntau dua cov coj dab lawm hos me kwv.

1.Tus xa plig ntu 1 ces yog los hloov tus qhuab ke.
2. Tus txiv plig los ua lub thaj txi ntuj rau tus tuag.
3. Tus xib Hwb coj cov kab ke xa plig lub ntees.
4. Tus coj nkauj hu rau lub ntees.
5. Tus thawj...
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Tony
Date: Dec 5, 2006 02:54

B2BH,

Tej koj hais no ces yog pab pawg ntseeg ntawd tseem ua nyuaj quav xyaw
neeg zig lawm hab od. Le kuv has taag lug, peb muab tej ntawd tso tseg
lawm. Peb muab zuaj ua ib teg lug rua qhov legacy kws kuv ua tug
nthuav taag nrog tej kws puab noog sau lub rooj ntawd rua suav dlawg
paub hav nov txhij txhua.

Cov tuab neeg tuaj paab ndla dlej num ces yog tuaj paab leg pluag noj
pluag haus kuas tej qhuas tau ib dlav mov noj hab tau ib paas dlej haus
xwb. Tej tsaj tua ntawd yog tua ua zaub noj nkaus. Noj nqaj nyuaj
dlhuav, peb tseem, ua fawm, ua qhaub poob, hab lwm yaam zaub rua tej
qhua tau noj.

Koj yuav tau moog saiv pawg kws coj ncaaj zog es txhob ua nyuj quav
xyaw neeg zig koj txhaj le pum meej zog nawb.

Born2beHmong wrote:
> koj mas, kuv twb mus saib los kiag lawm es thiaj li noog ua luaj li no,
> seb lawv ua puas tsawg hom church es hos coj li cas mas.
>
> kuv mus saib mas, lawv hus hauv qhua tag nrho...
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Re: Typical Hmong Christian Funeral         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Dec 5, 2006 06:33

ua tsaug tijlaug Phwvnyawm, luag tej laus yeej ib txwm piv txoj lus
hais tias, tij noj ntau diav, tij yeej paub ntau yam tshaj ces yog lino
ntag laud. ua tsaug rau koj qhia meej meej li no lawm ntag nawb, kuv
mas xav kom Xej hais meej meej li koj hais no, ces tsi muaj question ib
qhov ntxiv li lawm ntag og.

Tony,

ua koj tsaug thiab nawb, zoo li peb sib nkag siab zoo lawm--cov kuv
hais no, zoo li yog XF Txawjvag pab ntag no nad--cias kuv rov noog kom
meej meej seb lawv hos tawg lawm los tseem yog ib pab og. lawv tsiyog
catholic li Tij laug Phwvnyawm lawv lawm ned.

tabsi li cas los, twb yog kuv xav paub thiaj li hais kom kawg kiag, es
thiaj li paub meej meej rau yav tom ntej no xwb nawb--es txhob muab coj
los xav ntau ntau og. yog tsi sib qhia ces tsi sib paub, ces ib leeg
pheej lam tau lam hais lus rau ib leeg xwb. paub zoo li tijlaug
Phwvnyawm neb hais no lawm, ces zoo kawg kiag lawm nawb.

yog li koj yuav tsum tau nrog kuv luag kiag 3 miv suab thiab og!

B2BH
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