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Author: kwvtijkwvtij Date: Apr 15, 2008 10:40
nej tham txog cov poj nrauj tuag yuav tsis muaj leej twg pam. qhov no
yog ib qhov good topic. kuv pom hais tias tam sim no mus tsis yog cov
poj nrauj xwb, cov yawg nrauj thiab cov tseem ua niam txiv sib yuam
los thaum tuag lawm yuam tsis muaj leej twg pam li lawm. kuv twb pom
muaj 3 tug nyob rau minnesota no lawm yeej tsis muaj leej twg pam li
lawm.
tus 1 yog poj niam. tus no mas vim nws tsis muaj tub kiv. tus txiv
twb tuag ntev ntev lawm ces tus poj niam no mus yuav 3, 4 tug txiv
tshiab, tab sis yeej yuav nyob tsis muaj pes tsawg hnub li. yuav tus
2, 3 hli ho mus yuav tus. thaum tuag yeej tsis muaj leej twg lees
pam.
tus 2 yog txiv neej. tus no nws yeej tseem muaj poj niam, tab sis
nkawv kuj tsis muaj tub thiab. hmoov kuj tsis zoo. tus niam tuag
kiag tau 2 weeks xwb ces tus txiv kuj ci li tuag kiag thiab. tus poj
niam ces vim luag muaj neeg muaj tsa ces kawg pawg kwv tij thiaj lam
muab coj los pam ua me me kev cai kom cov neej tsa zoo siab xwb. ho
tus txiv ces tsis muaj leej twg kam tham li lawm.
tus 3 yog txiv neej thiab. tus no nrauj poj niam lawm, tab sis nws
kam muaj 4 txwg tub nyab thiab 2 txwg ntxhais vauv. tus no tom qab
nrauj poj niam tag ces lub neej kuj nyob ua dog ua dig. tej me nyuam...
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Author: xtou55xtou55 Date: Apr 15, 2008 11:26
On Apr 15, 1:40 pm, kwv...@ aol.com wrote:
> nej tham txog cov poj nrauj tuag yuav tsis muaj leej twg pam. qhov no
> yog ib qhov good topic. kuv pom hais tias tam sim no mus tsis yog cov
> poj nrauj xwb, cov yawg nrauj thiab cov tseem ua niam txiv sib yuam
> los thaum tuag lawm yuam tsis muaj leej twg pam li lawm. kuv twb pom
> muaj 3 tug nyob rau minnesota no lawm yeej tsis muaj leej twg pam li
> lawm.
>
> tus 1 yog poj niam. tus no mas vim nws tsis muaj tub kiv. tus txiv
> twb tuag ntev ntev lawm ces tus poj niam no mus yuav 3, 4 tug txiv
> tshiab, tab sis yeej yuav nyob tsis muaj pes tsawg hnub li. yuav tus
> 2, 3 hli ho mus yuav tus. thaum tuag yeej tsis muaj leej twg lees
> pam.
>
> tus 2 yog txiv neej. tus no nws yeej tseem muaj poj niam, tab sis
> nkawv kuj tsis muaj tub thiab. hmoov kuj tsis zoo. tus niam tuag
> kiag tau 2 weeks xwb ces tus txiv kuj ci li tuag kiag thiab. tus poj
> niam ces vim luag muaj neeg muaj tsa ces kawg pawg kwv tij thiaj lam
> muab coj los pam ua me me kev cai kom cov neej tsa zoo siab xwb. ho
> tus txiv ces tsis muaj leej twg kam tham li lawm. ...
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Author: Born2beHmongBorn2beHmong Date: Apr 15, 2008 14:09
On Apr 15, 12:40 pm, kwv...@ aol.com wrote:
> nej tham txog cov poj nrauj tuag yuav tsis muaj leej twg pam. qhov no
> yog ib qhov good topic. kuv pom hais tias tam sim no mus tsis yog cov
> poj nrauj xwb, cov yawg nrauj thiab cov tseem ua niam txiv sib yuam
> los thaum tuag lawm yuam tsis muaj leej twg pam li lawm. kuv twb pom
> muaj 3 tug nyob rau minnesota no lawm yeej tsis muaj leej twg pam li
> lawm.
>
> tus 1 yog poj niam. tus no mas vim nws tsis muaj tub kiv. tus txiv
> twb tuag ntev ntev lawm ces tus poj niam no mus yuav 3, 4 tug txiv
> tshiab, tab sis yeej yuav nyob tsis muaj pes tsawg hnub li. yuav tus
> 2, 3 hli ho mus yuav tus. thaum tuag yeej tsis muaj leej twg lees
> pam.
>
> tus 2 yog txiv neej. tus no nws yeej tseem muaj poj niam, tab sis
> nkawv kuj tsis muaj tub thiab. hmoov kuj tsis zoo. tus niam tuag
> kiag tau 2 weeks xwb ces tus txiv kuj ci li tuag kiag thiab. tus poj
> niam ces vim luag muaj neeg muaj tsa ces kawg pawg kwv tij thiaj lam
> muab coj los pam ua me me kev cai kom cov neej tsa zoo siab xwb. ho
> tus txiv ces tsis muaj leej twg kam tham li lawm. ...
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Author: fajkhaumfajkhaum Date: Apr 15, 2008 14:59
Kevtij,
Yog li mas kav tsij tuaj nrog peb ntseeg ntuj coj kevcai tshiab lawm
xwb nawb. Peb cov ntseeg thiaj tseem muaj kev sib pab txog tej yam li
no xwb laiv.
Faj
On Apr 15, 10:40 am, kwv...@ aol.com wrote:
> nej tham txog cov poj nrauj tuag yuav tsis muaj leej twg pam. qhov no
> yog ib qhov good topic. kuv pom hais tias tam sim no mus tsis yog cov
> poj nrauj...
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Author: muatonymuatony Date: Apr 15, 2008 17:26
On Apr 15, 5:59 pm, fajkhaum yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kevtij,
>
> Yog li mas kav tsij tuaj nrog peb ntseeg ntuj coj kevcai tshiab lawm
> xwb nawb. Peb cov ntseeg thiaj tseem muaj kev sib pab txog tej yam li
> no xwb laiv.
>
> Faj
>
> On Apr 15, 10:40 am, kwv...@ aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
>> nej tham txog cov poj nrauj tuag yuav tsis muaj leej twg pam. qhov no
>> yog ib qhov good topic. kuv pom hais tias tam sim no mus tsis yog cov
>> poj nrauj xwb, cov yawg nrauj thiab cov tseem ua niam txiv sib yuam
>> los thaum tuag lawm yuam tsis muaj leej twg pam li lawm. kuv twb pom
>> muaj 3 tug nyob rau minnesota no lawm yeej tsis muaj leej twg pam li
>> lawm.
> ...
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Author: hnubkajhnubkaj Date: Apr 16, 2008 09:42
Amen rau cov txiv dab, txiv nxtawm thiab nraug nus nej cov lus tag
nrho.
Just remember that what ever issues the men are now facing, the women
have been there before. The only difference is, we the Hmong women
ahve never been the captain of our ship. Whatever happened to us in
the past was prescribed by Hmong culture (= men). Maybe now that you
are faced with the same problems, we can expect some changes in our
cultural practice?
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Author: kwvtijkwvtij Date: Apr 16, 2008 11:35
On Apr 16, 11:42 am, hnub...@ gmail.com wrote:
> Amen rau cov txiv dab, txiv nxtawm thiab nraug nus nej cov lus tag
> Just remember that what ever issues the men are now facing, the women
> have been there before. The only difference is, we the Hmong women
> ahve never been the captain of our ship. Whatever happened to us in
> the past was prescribed by Hmong culture (= men). Maybe now that you
> are faced with the same problems, we can expect some changes in our
> cultural practice?
tus me ntxhais hk-- kuv agree, but i challenge you to be the first
hmong lady to take the lead. qhov issue loj tshaj ua rau tam sim no
tsis muaj leej twg xav lees tha cov laus ces tim yog cov nqe funeral
cost too much. past is the past. now is now. men no longer rule. so
please take my advice and be the first lady to rule and change these
practices.
don't just come here to bla.. bla...bla...your anger. that won't
change anything.
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Author: hnubkajhnubkaj Date: Apr 16, 2008 12:34
Thank you me tub Kwv,
It is no challenge at all my dear friend. In fact I have made many
changes in my life already such as going to college at an old age
after my kids are done with theirs. That's how I can come here and
blablabla, vent and rant all I want with all you good people. As to
the funeral - I already made arrangement too and I am now making
monhtly payment on it. when I die, you can bet that it will for sure
be only a 2 hrs service deal, at a cemetery chapel and then just be
buried or maybe cremated (couldn't really make up my mind yet). If I
should die before making a final decision - this would be the only
thing my family has to decide and they'll probably have to make a
small payment to pay for the difference or they may get a refund from
the funeral service. So, you see...
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Author: MoobsibMoobsib Date: Apr 16, 2008 12:38
kwvtij,
Koj xaav puas yog tim peb Hmoob lub sab yeej luaj lub paum nas tsuag,
le Tseemyeej has xwb maj? Yog muab ua zoo saib mas peb kuj los tsi
txawv cov twmqus pes tsawg. Thaus tsuv tsi tau tum mas cav ua heev
kawg tawm sis thaus tsuv nthos nkaus ib tus lawd ces cov ca le dhla
nrhu lawg lawm xwb.
Hnubkaj, you have good comment on this issue. Kev ua luam mas kuv xaam
pum tas, tsi haiv neeg twg, qee leej txhaj le muaj lub zeemmuag hum
xwb. Feem coob yeej ua tsi hum tsoom qualuam (customers) sab ces luam
txhaj ua puab xwb.
ms
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Author: kwvtijkwvtij Date: Apr 16, 2008 13:13
moobsib-- koj hais hmoob lub siab me no lov. yog li sim piav seb ho
me li cas. kuv pheej xav hais tias it is the other way around no
laiv. qhib 3 hnub 3 hmo, tua nyuaj txog 10 tawm tus, noj zaub mov
nruab hnub hmo ntuj 3 hnub 3 hmo. tej no koj xav hais tias yog siab
me los siab loj mas? ntshe koj ho hais txog ntawm txiv dab laug thiab
maum phauj no mas hais tsis tau. yog lawm hnub txog koj tus muam,
thov tsis txhob cab kuv rau nram tswg xwb los mav.
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