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Re: Tib Lub Siab Qub li 300 BC         

Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: tzexalee
Date: Sep 18, 2008 11:11

On 18 Sep, 08:05, Hmong-Lao hotmail.com> wrote:
> Phoojywg Txawjxab & zhen,
> Neb lub tswv yim uas yuav muab tsim ib tug ntawv uas txhua tsav Hmoob
> to taub, ib tug sau ib tug nyeem tawm thiab to taub no yeej yog ib qho
> zoo lawm thiab. Tabsis yog ua li neb hais no ces twb tsis txawv qhov
> Qin Shi Huang ua ne. Yog yuav ua li neb hais mas yuav tsum yog siv
> power li Qin Shi Huag mas thiaj tau, tabsis peb tsis xav kom history
> rov qab reqpeat lawm. Yog li ntawd, lub tswv yim no muab tso tseg.
>
> Tam li kuv xav mas, yog nej leej twg muaj pluaj siab xav kom txhua
> tsav Hmoob siv tib tug ntawd, ces yuav tsum propose thiab nthua tus
> ntawd RPA no rau cov kwv tij Hmoob txua txhia lub teb chaws xwb. Yog
> tus ntawd no tsis muaj suab txhua rau tsav Hmoob twg ces peb kho thiab
> ntxiv rau xwb ces yeej siv tau lawm. Yog siv cov ntawd RPA no mas
> tsoomfwv lub teb chaws twg los tsis txwv. Tabsis yog siv cov quav
> ntawd txawv dua RPA lawm mas tej zaum yuav muaj teebmeem li qhov uas
> peb twb tau hnov txog keeb kwm tsim ntawv Hmoob nyob rau Suavteb,
> Lostsuasteb, Thaibteb, & Cobtsibteb. Dhau li ntawd, RPA yog ib hom
> ntawv uas yooj yim kawm, yooj yim siv, siv thoob ntuj, siv tau yam
> tsis thas yuav create ib qhov separate software rau ntawv Hmoob.
>
> Kuv tsis to taub hais tias ua li cas cov Hmoob no xa nrov npe ua luaj.
> Koj los yuav tsim koj tus ntawv; kuv los yuav tsim kuv tus ntawv. Tsam
> no twb lig dhau heev lawm na, luag twb xub tsim tau rau peb siv ces
> kuj cia li khaws siv xwb los pob. Leej twg tseem rhawv tau ib tug
> ntawv tshiab npaum li cas los yeej tseem yog qog lwm tus lub tswv yim
> los thiab xwb. Tab txawm SoobLwj Yaj cov (PhajHauj) kiag los ntshe
> tseem yog qiv RPA lub tswv yim thiaj tsim tau thiab xwb. Vim nws cov
> ntawv tsim tawm 6 xyoo tom qab cov ntawv Hmoob RPA lawm. Niaj Hnub no
> peb cov uas txawj ntawv Hmoob no leej twg xav tsim ib cov ntawv Hmoob
> tshiab los yeej tau na! Tabsis what is the point, what makes it better
> than the current RPA? Kuv yeej tsis xam pom ib qhov txiaj ntsim uas
> yuav los tsim ib tug ntawv tshiab rau Hmoob li, tsuas xam pov qhov
> yuav rhuav thiab muab Hmoob faib thiab cais kom tawg ua pab ua pawg
> ntxiv xwb.
>
> Vvis suvd ntsuaisn hesn rhus ismplhujf ntawm Khawsrremn Hmoob RPA
> livdawsrrevxim.
> (qog lus Askiv tau ces lwm yam lus Hmoob yeej tsis muaj teebmeem)
>
> HL

HL,
Koj hais koj cov lus los kuj yog lawm. Peb yuav luag txhua tus Hmoob
yeej hais li koj hais. Tus neeg tsim dab tsi los yog ntshaw xav
nrhov. cov neeg hlub Hmoob es nrhiav tswv yim kho Hmoob es Hmoob xav
tias nws xav nrhov no ces Hmoob thiaj pheej muab tua pov tseg. Hmoob
thiaj ua ib haiv neeg poob qab.

Kuv pom li Zhen hais thiab. Peb xav yuav qhov yooj yim es peb thiaj
tsis muaj dab tsi khov. Yog yuav hais lus Akiv ces peb cov ntawv niaj
hnub no yog phonemic writing. Koj hais lus li cas koj sau li ntawv.
Kuv hais lus li cas kuv sau li ntawv. Yog li no cov ntawv no thiaj
tsis muaj ib yam twg uas yuav siv tau rau sawvdaws. Koj xav tias RPA
yuav noj tau tas nrho Hmoob cov lus, koj sim siab cov lus nram no
saib.

Hmoob: tus tub, ib lub, dub
Moob: tug tug, ib lub, dlub
Ad Hmaob: Dol (tum+g) dob (tub), ib (is) lob (lus), dlob (dlus)
Ad Hmiaom: (taab taam), (im laan), (glaam)
Hnub: dail (taim+g) daib (tai), ib (i) laib (lais), dlaib (dlais)

Thaum zoo li no, koj sim xav saib seb koj yuav kho RPA li cas thiaj
haum?

Kuv twb nrog cov Hmoob nyob Suav teb tham lawm. Lawv hais tias lawv
cov ntawv latin yeej zoo rau lawv siv kawg lawm. Yog peb cov nyob usa
yuav kom lawv siv peb tus ntawv RPA ces lawv yeem siv lawv cov xwb.
Koj los yeej pom tias Hmoobdawb thiab Hmooblees twb hais lus sibze tas
npaum no, twb kho tus RPA tsis sib haum. Koj puas xav hais tias
300,000 leej yuav hais kom lawv 6,000,000 leej yuav.

Hais txog ntawm txoj kev yuam kev nias li qin shi huang, kuv tsis tau
hais tias yuav tsum ua li. Koj xav yuam kev lawm. Rov nyeem dua kuv
cov lus los tau. Kuv tsuas hais tias yog peb tsis kho peb kom haum
ces muaj ib hnub yuav muaj tus nraud los yuam peb kho.

Qhov tas nrho peb cov Hmoob no lub siab xav rau txoj kev kho tus ntawv
Hmoob mas yog "KUV XAV..." Tsis yog kho raws ib tug txheej hais tias
vim cov lus yog li no mas thiaj kho li no. Yog vim qhov "KUV XAV"
ntag es peb thiaj li pheej hais tsis sib haum.

Tzianeng,

Txiabneeb thiab nws pawg ntseeg lub tswv yim los yeej poob rau kuv lo
lus nram qab kawg no.

Yeej tsis tau muaj ib tug neeg twg uas tsim ntawv Hmoob rau Hmoob es
yuav ua tib zoo tshuaj xyuas saib cov lus Hmoob seb zoo li cas es mam
tsim ntawv los kom haum. Tab tseemfwv Suav tau tshawbfawb xyoo
1956-7, tau ib xyoo, pawg neeg tshawbfawb txiav txim tsim 3 yam ntawv
rau Hmoob.

Lub sij hawm no, cov neeg ua paub zoo keebkwm suab lus Hmoob ces yeej
tsis muaj pestsawg leej. Wang Fushi yog ib tug. Kuv yog ib tug. Yeej
tsis muaj leej twg qhov twg lawm hos.

Txawjxab
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