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Re: Tib Lub Siab Qub li 300 BC         

Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: zhen
Date: Sep 18, 2008 09:07

HL
> Neb lub tswv yim uas yuav muab tsim ib tug ntawv uas txhua tsav Hmoob
> to taub, ib tug sau ib tug nyeem tawm thiab to taub no yeej yog ib qho
> zoo lawm thiab. Tabsis yog ua li neb hais no ces twb tsis txawv qhov
> Qin Shi Huang ua ne. Yog yuav ua li neb hais mas yuav tsum yog siv
> power li Qin Shi Huag mas thiaj tau, tabsis peb tsis xav kom history
> rov qab reqpeat lawm. Yog li ntawd, lub tswv yim no muab tso tseg.

koj to taub yuam kev loj kawg li lawm. i am speaking for myself, txawj
xab mam li hais nws tus kheej. raws li kuv xav mas kuv hais kom peb
nyias txaus nyias siab los pab kho. tsis yog li koj xav es kom quab
yuam leej twg qhov twg. s/d yuav tsum pom tias ntawv las tees no rhuav
hmoob lub neej lub npe loj npuam li cas thiab coj peb tawg zuj zus mus
lawm.

kuv thiaj li xav, yog peb txawj sib hlub tiag tiag, peb yeej yuav kho
+ tsim tau. peb yuav tau kho ntawm peb lub siab lub ntsws tag tso mam
li los kho + tsim tej ntaub ntawv. koj puas to taub?

qin shi huang.di xav yog, tiam si, nws ua tsis yog. thov kom peb xav
yog thiab ua kom yog yog raws li txoj kev xav. koj to taub lawm lov?
> Tam li kuv xav mas, yog nej leej twg muaj pluaj siab xav kom txhua
> tsav Hmoob siv tib tug ntawd, ces yuav tsum propose thiab nthua tus
> ntawd RPA no rau cov kwv tij Hmoob txua txhia lub teb chaws xwb. Yog
> tus ntawd no tsis muaj suab txhua rau tsav Hmoob twg ces peb kho thiab
> ntxiv rau xwb ces yeej siv tau lawm. Yog siv cov ntawd RPA no mas
> tsoomfwv lub teb chaws twg los tsis txwv. Tabsis yog siv cov quav
> ntawd txawv dua RPA lawm mas tej zaum yuav muaj teebmeem li qhov uas
> peb twb tau hnov txog keeb kwm tsim ntawv Hmoob nyob rau Suavteb,
> Lostsuasteb, Thaibteb, & Cobtsibteb. Dhau li ntawd, RPA yog ib hom
> ntawv uas yooj yim kawm, yooj yim siv, siv thoob ntuj, siv tau yam
> tsis thas yuav create ib qhov separate software rau ntawv Hmoob.

please, read my other post in response to your statement on RPA being
"easy".
> Kuv tsis to taub hais tias ua li cas cov Hmoob no xa nrov npe ua luaj.

koj hais koj cov lus no tub qaug tib neeg kawg li. tub qaug Niam Ntawv
SLY, tub qaug tej zoo li NDX, tub qaug NVH. kuv xav, yog tsis nyob
hauv internet, yog nyob saum neej tiag tiag no, koj yeej tsis muaj lub
ntsej muag yuav hais lus tub qaug tib neeg npaum li no. koj puas tau
nrog SLY los nws pab neeg tham? koj puas tau nrog NDX tham? koj puas
tau nrog NVH tham? kub pab koj txaj lub qhov muag kawg li nawb. vim
tias, kuv nrog lawv cov tib neeg no tham lawm. lawv tsim tej ntawv no
vim yog kev hlub hmoob tsis yog vim raws li koj iab liam tias lawv "xa
nrov npe ua luaj."

yog koj muaj rab peev xwm, koj kuj qhia kuv seb koj ho nrog tus twg
tham es nws hais tias, "peb tsim hom ntawv no vim peb xav kom peb nrov
nrov npe nawb." muab npe muab xov tooj rau kuv. sau email rau kuv. yog
muaj tseeb li koj hais, kuv tus zhen no mam li muab kuv daim nplooj
tshem kiag mus nawb.
> Koj los yuav tsim koj tus ntawv; kuv los yuav tsim kuv tus ntawv. Tsam
> no twb lig dhau heev lawm na, luag twb xub tsim tau rau peb siv ces
> kuj cia li khaws siv xwb los pob. Leej twg tseem rhawv tau ib tug

tsis lig nab. peb hmoob yog neeg qub neeg laus. peb nyob pes tsawg
xyoo los lawm? peb yuav ciaj haiv mus ntxiv pes tsawg xyoo yam tom
ntej? yog yuav muab hais tiag tiag, yog ua li koj xav es cia li muab
tso tseg thiaj li yog "lig" ov. yog pib tau hnub no mus lawm ces tsis
lig ib sim neej.
> ntawv tshiab npaum li cas los yeej tseem yog qog lwm tus lub tswv yim
> los thiab xwb. Tab txawm SoobLwj Yaj cov (PhajHauj) kiag los ntshe
> tseem yog qiv RPA lub tswv yim thiaj tsim tau thiab xwb. Vim nws cov

kev sib qiv tswv yim no txhaum dab tsi? koj yuav tau mus nyeem kuv
daim post tiag tiag li nawb, vim koj tseem xav nqaim nqaim thiab ua
siab me me heev li. kev sib qev no tsis yog hmoob txawj ua, mab sua
yeej ua, mekas yeej ua. kaus li thiab nyiaj pooj tseem qev ntawm suav,
suav tseem qev ntawm hmoob.

yog peb qev tswv yim los kho kom tau hmoob los ua ib haiv raws kev sib
hlub xwb, txhob lam yig nawb. tej hmoob tej zoo tswv yim, luag twb
tsis yig kawm thiab qev, es vim li cas peb thiaj ho txaj muag qev luag
tswv yim thiab maj?
> ntawv tsim tawm 6 xyoo tom qab cov ntawv Hmoob RPA lawm. Niaj Hnub no
> peb cov uas txawj ntawv Hmoob no leej twg xav tsim ib cov ntawv Hmoob
> tshiab los yeej tau na!

yog kawg li koj hais kov. tiam si, kuv muab ntsia ntsia lawm, nej tsim
los nej tsim kom hmoob tawg loj zuj zus thiab yuam kev lawm deb zuj
zus mus xwb. nej yeej yuav tsis muaj lub tswv yim revolutionary, nej
tsuas muaj qhov evolutionary xwb nab.
> Tabsis what is the point, what makes it better
> than the current RPA? Kuv yeej tsis xam pom ib qhov txiaj ntsim uas
> yuav los tsim ib tug ntawv tshiab rau Hmoob li, tsuas xam pov qhov
> yuav rhuav thiab muab Hmoob faib thiab cais kom tawg ua pab ua pawg
> ntxiv xwb.

awv, qhov ntawm koj ntag lauj. ntawv las tees ntxawm ua txoj hauj lwm
koj lawm ntag. again, please read my other post and comment there. the
goal is not better or worse, the goal is not simpler or more complex,
the goal is not easier or difficult as you have truly misunderstood,
the goal is kom kho peb haiv hmoob los txawj sib hlub zuj zus mus.
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