When one has sex with one's wife without her knowing - is it consider
rape since she was not given the opportunity to consent?

Interesting read
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26661840/
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Court: Cops illegally taped nursing home sex
Judges says husband of woman in coma had expectation of privacy
The Associated Press
updated 12:15 p.m. PT, Thurs., Sept. 11, 2008
MADISON, Wis. - Police who videotaped a man having sex with his
comatose wife in her nursing home room violated his constitutional
rights, an appeals court ruled Thursday.

David W. Johnson, 59, had an expectation to privacy when he visited
his wife, a stroke victim, at Divine Savior Nursing Home in Portage,
the District 4 Court of Appeals ruled. Therefore, police violated his
Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches when they
installed a hidden video camera in the room, the court said.

not only this case is having such a story to it, but there were many
mhong cases that the husbands were only sleeping with his own legally
wife...and then she turned against him that he had raped her. the laws
would threw the husband in jail. there was a famous case in Oshkosh
long ago, about the consent of the wife before he can have sex with
her.

sad huh...vimhlub and nhubkaj...LOL!

Born

I believe the case should be looked at in a broader context. I'm sure
you've heard of the case where a comatosed woman got pregant in a
nursing home and delivered her baby without ever waking up from her
coma. The husband had nothing to do with it. Someone in the nursing
home raped her. The law tries to protect people from many angles and
sometimes each individual case just simply fall through the crack such
as this case.

Peace,
HK

Nhubkaj...and Zhen,

i agree with you to certain extend, except that in this case, it was
involved with the husband himself...and the system was willing to put
the husband and his wife on the financial burden of the family to be
drained, such that this is his own legally marriage wife. the only
thing we wanted you to understand is that when it involved with
husband and wife, the system should have ease the tension, instead of
not only ruining their marriage, but their financia

Common law states that when one gets married, one willingly consents
to having sex with the one to whom one is married. Because of the
feminist movement, such law is now only a distant memory. Instead,
every intercourse between husband and wife must now have consent
(mostly from the wife). The feminists believe that in doing this,
women will have some say in this male dominated world because they are
now the gatekeepers to men's natural desires. Although many true
women see that the feminists have gone too far, they, like most men,
did not think it's worth the effort to speak against things that are
unnatural.

Hnub,

I think the reason why the case here is a no go is because it is
clearly wrong. I do not see why the law should criminalize
intercourse between husband and wife. Should we look at this in a
broader context? NO. Good laws should only punish those who do
wrong. When laws punish both wrongdoers and rightdoers, the law is
bad and needs to be abolished. No second angle needs to be look at.
If these kinds of prosecution continues, pretty soon everyone is going
to require a court order in order to sleep with ones spouse.

Born and Hnub,

Pardon me before I speak.

There was a question as to where the word F.U.C.K came from. Some
have thought that long ago, the King of England decreed that anyone
who wants to fornicate had to get the King's consent. If anyone does
it without his consent, he would be beheaded. So, in order to avoid
confusion, people would post the sign "Fornicating Under Consent of
the King" at their hut before they take part in the act. As time with
on, people reduced the wordings to "F.U.C.K" to make the sign shorter
and to avoid embarassment.

With the way the laws are going now, soon we will have to post such
signs on our bedroom doors.

Born and Hnub,

Pardon me before I speak.

There was a question as to where the word F.U.C.K came from. Some
have thought that long ago, the King of England decreed that anyone
who wanted to fornicate had to get the King's consent. If anyone did
it without his consent, the fornicators would be beheaded. So, in
order to complied with the law, people would sought the king's
permission before doing the act. The king would give them a sign to
post on their hut so that people would not accuse them of breaking the
law. The sign would read, "Fornicating Under Consent of the King".
As time went by, the sign was shorten to its acronyms, which read,
"F.U.C.K".

With the way the laws are going now, soon we will have to post such
signs on our bedroom doors.

Vimhlub,

Hahahahaha.... puas yog koj puab cab ntaab xwb los yog lu lug ntawd
yeej abreviated lug le hov tag maj? Vow!..... interesting to me,
indeed.

Thanks for your comment. I agree. Yug ua yug quaspuj huv nruab txaag
los tseem yuav txhum huv si mas ca tso tshaav phluav es yuav tshov
leej twg los tau xwb lau...

MS

On Sep 11, 3:40 pm, vimhlub gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 11, 7:31 pm, Moobsib gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Vimhlub..i'm not sure if Nhubkaj would want to comment more on
this subject matter, since he is a she.

Yawmsib, nyob rau roojteb nuav, yog koj quaspuj tsi muaj consent cag
rau koj uas--nws txhom tau koj coj mus lhob kavlhaus ntag hod. nws
tseem haas tas, koj muab nws txhom uas hab xwb no nawb. le hod, hab
le nyuab ua luaj li nuav laud...peb hab li yuav nrog mej cov ua tij
mus nyob chaw kajsab lawm nplogteb hod.