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Re: Revised letter sent to Marc Eisen of the Daily Page         

Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: NP
Date: May 22, 2007 09:01

On May 22, 1:53 am, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
> I have revised my letter to include sources and sent it to Mr. Eisner of
> the Daily Page. If He does not print it perhaps the Hmong Time or Hmong
> Today will. This should they them to start thinking.
>
> Chong
>
> Forty years ago, anyone could write anything about the Hmong and we would
> just sit there silently because we could not read or write. For some time
> now the Hmong community had sat silently as McCoy wagged his hypercritical
> finger. Mr. McCoy has accused VP of running a heroin factory to
> committing unspeakable war acts. All of these accusations come from a man
> who never sat foot in Laos until the war was nearly over and who probably
> hadn't a clue whom the five Hmong decision makers where during the war.
> McCoy should look beyond his nose to find the real truth. McCoy has been
> so busy condemning VP that he has failed to realize that VP was no more
> than a puppet whose master was none other than the good old USA. VP's
> only crime is that he danced to the tune of the CIA and to McCoy's
> chagrin, he danced it very well.
>
> Let us take a look at who is the real culprit behind this atrocity. It is
> fact that the US signed the Geneva Accord declaring Laos a neutral country.
> By signing this Accord, the US agreed to keep its hands off of Laos. It
> is fact the US violated the Geneva Accord when Bill Lair, a US CIA agent
> met with VP at Padong in 1961 to request VP's assistance to stop the
> spread of communism. Realize that the US sought VP, not the other way
> around. It is fact that the US used sheep-dipped military personnel to
> fight a war in Laos. It is fact that the US constructed over 500 Lima
> sites in Laos from 1961 to 1972 for its war effort. It is fact that the
> US dropped more bombs in Laos than during any other war in the history of
> mankind and this includes the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs. It is fact
> that when the US left SE Asia, they abandoned their allies, the Hmong, to
> suffer the consequence of the Communist. It is fact that the US sat by
> silently knowing that their once staunch allies where being murdered by
> the thousands and targeted for genocide. It is fact that 100,000 Hmong
> died as a direct result of being abandoned by the US. If anyone should be
> pointing fingers, it should be at the US. If the US was any other nation
> and not the bully it is, there would be a tribunal assembled against its
> leaders for war crimes. (Sources: Tragic Mountain, Jane Hamilton-Merritt,
> Shooting at the Moon, Roger Warner.)
>
> VP is not a perfect man. No one is, but VP was the right man for the job
> at the time. VP like any war time general on all sides made tough
> decisions, decisions that none of us would dare touch. It is easy for
> someone like McCoy who's toughest decisions did not include life or death
> calls in time of war. The difference between being named a hero or branded
> a war criminal is whether you win or lose. So please Mr. McCoy, please
> refrain from your holier than thou attitude when condemning VP for the
> decisions he made in time of war when the illegal actions of the
> government of this Nation resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands
> of people. You'll do good to keep silent at this time.
>
> Now back to the Opium topic. Speaking ONLY from my memories of a child
> roaming the streets of Long Tieng, I can attest to the fact that I never
> saw a heroin factory. Raw opium was openly sold in the markets as it has
> been done for thousands of years. Most Hmong where not drug addicts as it
> was looked down upon in our society. We grew the opium because it was a
> cash crop. At first, it was to sell to the Chinese, and later to the
> French who controlled the drug market. Don't get me wrong, I am not
> disputing that there weren't some low-level and perhaps even mid-level
> drug dealing activities during this "we all need to eat" time period.
> What is at issue is McCoy's accusation that VP was running some sort of
> drug cartel with a heroin factory based out of Long Tieng. An operation
> of this magnitude needs a complex operational system. This alone would
> trigger a "buzz" in the community. I personally have not heard of any
> "buzz" from the Hmong even after 40 years.
>
> The streets of Long Tieng were my playground. I was too young to fight a
> war, but old enough to know what I saw. As a young boy I was nickname,
> "Simmien" or the "witty one" I knew every crack and cranny on the CIA
> compound. I played in the T-28 hangers, on the ammunition dump, at the
> fuel depot, and climbed the power station. I even roamed the grounds of
> the Zoo. How many of you knew there was a zoo at one time in Long Tieng?
> I sliced my butt open playing on the medical waste pile at the hospital.
> Occasionally, I stopped at the whore house on the west side of the runway,
> built by the Thai to service t heir mercenary soldiers, to spy on the naked
> girls. I was there when the first ice machine was brought to Long Tieng,
> ate at the first restaurant, and watched the first loaf of baguette come
> out of the oven when the short lived bakery was built. I was the child
> who broke the King's bed at the King's Palace by jumping up and down on it
> once too many times. All this time, I never saw anything resembling a
> factory.
>
> In order to have a factory of any magnitude, several things need to be
> considered. One of which is electric power. Long Tieng had a very
> limited power supply. A small sub-station was built halfway down the
> runway to service the CIA compound and airfield. Only a handful of homes
> had electricity. The majority of Long Tieng existed under candle power. I
> remember, in our house, we had one light bulb, if the light switch was not
> flipped on by 5 PM, at 7 PM there was not be enough energy left to turn it
> on. In short, Long Tieng had no factories. The ice factory everyone
> speculated on was no more than a two sided freezer, no larger than 22
> cubic inches. It was eventually shut down because of the lack of a power
> supply. I was there when this happened, it belonged to my mother.
>
> Another factor one needs to consider is time. VP had no time for
> extracurricular activities, like running a drug operation. War was his
> full time job. He and his cabinet worked 14 to 16 hour days around the
> clock for most of ten years. He was too busy saving American lives,
> carrying out CIA orders, and defending the principles of what this nation
> stands for, so that people, like McCoy, can express their opinions.
> (Source: Former Hmong Chief of Staff MRII.)
>
> In addition, when there is drug involved, all you have to do is follow the
> money trail. Where the money stops is where the story begins. I have
> personally interviewed the person in charge of all the finances on the
> Hmong side during the US covert operations. I can tell you that there are
> no secret Swiss accounts or villa tucked away in some exotic place. I am
> certain of this fact. VP didn't need money, with one wag of his finger,
> CIA agent, code name "Money man Mike", appeared with it. (Source: Former
> Hmong Chief of Staff MRII.)
>
> Dr. Charles Weldon, unlike McCoy, spent over a decade working side by side
> with the Hmong during the war years. According to Dr. Weldon, he indicated
> that aerial survey in the sixties showed that Laos was producing about 35
> tons of opium per year. Weldon continues to report that price at that
> time was around 12-15 dollars per kilogram. This would then mean that the
> whole opium crop would yield around $250,000 to $300,000 ANNUALLY.
> (Source: Tragedy in Paradise, Charles Weldon, MD.)
>
> Now consider that VP's army was bankrolled by the CIA. Even at the
> pittance amount of 12,000 kips for fresh recruits to 25,000 kips for
> seasoned soldiers, this would average to around $10 to $20 per soldier per
> month. Given that VP's force was maintained at 30,000 strong, that would
> put the payroll at a conservative half a million per MONTH. Throw into
> that the expenditure for the war and we can just imagine the amount of
> money that was being spent. This was a bargain for the Americans, as
> compared to the bankroll for the war in Vietnam, but a hell of a lot of
> money for the mountain soldiers. (Source: Former Hmong chief of Staff
> MRII.)
>
> Let us just assume, for a fleeting moment, that what McCoy say is true and
> that VP somehow controlled the drug market. Let us again assume that VP
> controlled 50%% of the Laos opium market. This would mean that VP could
> gross approximately $150,000 annually or $12,500 per month. After cost of
> operation in opium, he would net around $6,250 per month. Get the point?
> VP didn't need the chump change from the opium market when he was
> receiving over half a million from the CIA per month just in payroll.
> Everyone got it now?
>
> Furthermore, I get a kick out of "farang" writers who lack understanding
> of the Hmong and their part in the war that leads them to speculate and
> sensationalize in the true Hollywood style. I can't help but smile and at
> the same time grimace at their naivety and myopic view of the world.
>
> For example, as stated in your editorial in the Daily Page, Keith Quincy,
> the author of Harvesting Pachay's Wheat, in one of his paragraph paints VP
> in the true western sense with a mix of Al Capone, Boss Tweed and Thomas
> Pendergast ... yeah right!
>
> Quincy, as does other chroniclers of the secret war, credits the Hmong
> army for being a ferocious fighting force and Vang Pao for being an
> inspired political and military leader. The CIA was appreciative, and its
> subsidy was so bountiful, Quincy notes, that Vang Pao was able to pay his
> soldiers ten times more than soldiers in the Royal Laotian Army received.
> "For thousands of poor Hmong peasants earning less than lowland rice
> farmers, soldiering for Vang Pao was a way to abandon a life of grinding
> poverty for one of relative affluence," he writes. "Eldest sons had the
> right to take the place of wounded or killed fathers to keep the family on
> the military dole." (Source: Marc Eisen, Isthmus, The Daily Page
> 5/07/2007.)
>
> Did Quincy know that a fresh recruit Hmong soldier fighting for the United
> States of America received a monthly payment from the CIA of $10 per month?
> The price was set by the CIA, so don't blame VP; he is not the one with
> the deep pockets. Did Quincy realize that a single Air America Pilot's
> salary was $3,000 per month? If Quincy thinks that $10 a month was
> lucrative for the Hmong to die for, boy do I have a job for him. This is
> a case of trying to rewrite history by shifting blame from the USA to that
> of a third grade educated mountain soldier. The CIA could have pulled the
> plug on VP at any time they wanted to, which they eventually did. The
> fact of the matter is that Long Tieng fell not once but three times. Each
> time it was propped up by the CIA until their mission in Vietnam was
> completed and they no longer needed the Hmong. (Sources: Former Hmong
> Chief of Staff MRII and Former Hmong Chief of Personnel MRII.)
>
> Quincy also wrote," Vang Pao, in other words, was using child soldiers to
> fight the communists." (Source: Marc Eisen, Isthmus, The Daily Page
> 5/07/2007.)
>
> A statement such as this is a perfect example of someone who is blind to
> the truth. A more correct sentence should have read, "The CIA of the US
> Government was using Vang Pao to recruit children to fight an illegal war
> that they themselves initiated and didn't want the world community to know
> that they were violating international laws."
>
> Finally, I often wondered why McCoy harbored such ill feelings toward the
> Hmong and VP. A recent interview with Amy Goodman may help shed some
> light on this topic.
>
> http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/17/1522228
>
> It seems that McCoy alleged that some thirty years ago he was ambushed by
> a group of clandestine soldiers backed by the CIA in the jungle of Laos.
> When asked by Ms. Goodman how did he know it was the CIA? His reply was,
> "Oh, look, in the mountains of Laos, there aren't that many white guys,
> okay? ...." Was he inferring that there were CIA agents with this group
> that was shooting at him? Then he goes on to say they were Laotian
> Mercenaries. From there his response to questioning by Ms. Goodman is
> unclear as he, the supposed expert, couldn't distinguish between the
> proper terminologies for naming the different ethnic groups in Laos.
> Without any empirical evidence he came to the conclusion that those who
> ambushed him were clandestine, "Laotian mercenaries. That, everybody was
> clear about that. Nobody denied that". Please provide the sources Mr.
> McCoy, "who were everybody and who was nobody?
>
> If McCoy had been ambushed by a Hmong SGU unit, I can guarantee one thing;
> he would be pushing daisies by now. Even the most seasoned NVA officers
> knew better than to wonder off the main road when in Hmong country. The
> NVA never fought the Hmong with just a platoon, they brought whole
> battalions. McCoy and his five village militia men would have been cut
> down to ribbons. How's that for some western drama!? It is difficult to
> take a man seriously when his research is clouded by his own personal
> prejudice which appears to be retribution.
>
> Enough for now Mr. McCoy, I can tell you so much more, but you don't
> deserve it. Your work is only speculation. Up until now, your work has
> been, as stated by Mr. Marc Eisen, "stood the test of time". This is
> mainly because no one has challenged your claims. If you really wanted to
> know the truth, why not talk with the people that were actually there in
> Long Tieng?
>
> Chong

A great response. What a disappointment Mr. Eisen's remarks have been
- relying on such limited (and unreliable) sources of information
(much of which he apparently just found surfing the Internet). I was
especially offended that he construed elements of historical Hmong
culture as aberrant or immoral (as if "political marriages" never
happened in European history). Great leaders are complicated people
and honoring them by naming monuments after them does not "whitewash"
history, but rather opens the opportunity for discussion and learning.
I only hope he takes your message to heart. - NP
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