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Date: Aug 10, 2007 15:31
On Aug 10, 5:05 pm, "lis...@ lycos.com" lycos.com> wrote:> On Aug 10, 12:46 pm, sibtham2 hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Not long ago Tsiv plig Nyiaj pao yaj passed away. He was a catholic
>> priest from France who went to live with the Hmong people in Laos in
>> the early 50. He spent most of his life with Hmong, shared Hmong
>> belief and worked to conserve Hmong culture and yet still being a
>> father. He was admired by all and Hmong value his teaching.
>> Why Tsiv plig Nyiaj pao doesn't put down Hmong culture and belief?
>> What did he see that other couldn't? Why could he accept and parctice
>> Hmong death ritual practice? Will he go to hell or heaven?
>> In contrast, the new self proclaim Hmong tsiv plig went completely to
>> the other direction? Days and night they bash and put down Hmong
>> belief and culture baling the reason Hmong Hmong misery? What had
>> happened happen to them? Why don't people listen to them but challenge
>> them? Who occupy the Hmong top position in religion? Were these new
>> tsisplig properly trained? What are the plans that they put in place
>> to co exist with Hmong? Sibtham
>
> Ib yam uas kuv tsis tshuam totaub zoo mas yog vim li cas Txiv Plig ...
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Date: Aug 10, 2007 15:52
sibtham...
truth: he will be 6ft underground
christianity belief: he will be in hell for doing such things
my belief: if man tries to be like him, then maybe we can be a step
closer to peace.
lisnom,
99%% of a hmong funeral is culture..and only 1%% is religion related.
txiv plig pov knew this, that's why he encourage the culture to
continue.
cherry...kuv to taub tas koj tsi tau paub the meaning of the term
dlaab yet. com'on....listen to yourself....YOU BELIEVING IN A
FATHERLESS JESUS AS GOD IS NO BETTER THAN X WORSHIPPING A ROCK AS GOD.
yaweh
yaweh
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Author: sibtham2sibtham2 Date: Aug 10, 2007 17:38
On Aug 10, 3:31 pm, chery,
You behave like a taliban or muslin extremist now.
Aren't you happy that the Hmong people allow you to do or believe
whatever you want?
If the traditional Hmong use the same thinking like you " Either with
us or against us" then you litle fake
priest will have no place to run. You are a warmonger.You now have no
respect even for tsiv plig Nyaij pov who is
a giant compared to you litle fanatic. You really amaze me. Sibtham
...@ sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 10, 5:05 pm, "lis...@ lycos.com" lycos.com> wrote:
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>>> On Aug 10, 12:46 pm, sibtham2 hotmail.com> wrote:>
>>> Not long ago Tsiv plig Nyiaj...
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Date: Aug 10, 2007 17:47
On Aug 10, 7:38 pm, sibtham2 hotmail.com> wrote:> On Aug 10, 3:31 pm, chery,
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> You behave like a taliban or muslin extremist now.
> Aren't you happy that the Hmong people allow you to do or believe
> whatever you want?
> If the traditional Hmong use the same thinking like you " Either with
> us or against us" then you litle fake
> priest will have no place to run. You are a warmonger.You now have no
> respect even for tsiv plig Nyaij pov who is
> a giant compared to you litle fanatic. You really amaze me. Sibtham
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> ....@ sbcglobal.net wrote: >> On Aug 10, 5:05 pm, "lis...@ lycos.com" lycos.com> wrote:>
>>> On Aug 10, 12:46 pm, sibtham2 hotmail.com> wrote:>
>>>> Not long ago Tsiv plig Nyiaj pao yaj passed away. He was a catholic ...
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Date: Aug 10, 2007 18:10
Cov phoojywg,
Tus yuav hais licas los cia nws hais li nws saib xav thiab paub
lasmas. Tiamsis qhov kuv xav mas tos hais tias Txivplig Nyiajpov xaiv
uali ntawm los twb yog nws paub tseeb tseeb lawm tias tsis lam muaj
God(s) nyob qhov twg. Txawm yuav muab nws lub ntees tig mus zaj twg
los yeej tsis txhaum tus quav dabtsi. Tej kev ntseeg(religion) ntawd
tsuas yog ib yam kev qhia kom neeg ua zoo xwb. Yog li thaub thiaj tsis
K tias yuav txhaum dabtsi lawm.
Qhov no, yog qhov uas peb yuav tsum tau coj los xav kom meej meej tias
yog vim licas Txivplig Nyiajpo
--on his last day---allowed such thing
to take place. Tsis yog nws(Nyiajpov) twb ua lus ntxhi(telling us
indirect) qhia rau peb tias: Fuck you guys, there is no such thing as
god or gods.
Yim
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Author: cwjmemcwjmem Date: Aug 10, 2007 18:19
Sibtham,
A man without a culture is a lost man.
Those christian folks don't really know the benefit of their own
culture offer. They are truly lost souls.
I do have a great respect for Father Nyiaj Pov that help preserving
Hmong culture. As amatter of fact, he encouraged Hmong to write our
own funeral ritual...such as "Kab ke Pam tuag" where it produced in
French Guanna (spelling).
On Aug 10, 6:10 pm, yooj...@ msn.com wrote: > Cov phoojywg,
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> Tus yuav hais licas los cia nws hais li nws saib xav thiab paub
> lasmas. Tiamsis qhov kuv xav mas tos hais tias Txivplig Nyiajpov xaiv
>...
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