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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: sibtham2
Date: Jul 11, 2006 15:32

LoneWriter,

All these just for a public apology? That 's all? You have to compile
all the misrepresentation that have been stated by this organization.
This is a very weak approach.

Sibtham
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Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: LoneWriter
Date: Jul 10, 2006 14:20

Hi All,

Please sign the petition at
http://www.petitiononline.com/HAC2006/petition.html

The petition seeks a public apology from the Council, seek cutural
representation at the Council, and for the Council to work with the
community.

Please forward to all your friends and associates. Your help is much
appreciated. Contact me if you have any questions.

Justice is a matter of choice - Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: StickRice
Date: Jul 11, 2006 07:03

Thanks! for the heads up.
~Frank

LoneWriter wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Please sign the petition at
> http://www.petitiononline.com/HAC2006/petition.html
>
> The petition seeks a public apology from the Council, seek cutural
> representation at the Council, and for the Council to work with the
> community.
>
> Please forward to all your friends and associates. Your help is much
> appreciated. Contact me if you have any questions.
>
>
> Justice is a matter of choice - Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Jul 12, 2006 06:24

Lonewrite,

Good going, play the western politic because when they represented you,
and they were malicious making fault and irresponsible statements. it
was a good way to make the community aware of what they did, and the
creditability of it organization. we need people of wisdom and
integrity to represent our values and standards. it is a right way to
make correction for the future of new leaders and representatives for
our community, as a clean government or clean organizations who are in
the forefront making statements to reflect all of us.

I live out of state; therefore I have not signed your petition. keep up
the good work, as our young generation plays fair, and plays in the
middle ground of politic nowadays.

Born2beHmong

LoneWriter wrote:
> There is a team compiling the data. Some quotes were heard in person by
> community members during public forum. We have a strong case.
>
>
> sibtham2 wrote:
>> LoneWriter,
>>
> ...
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: StickRice
Date: Jul 12, 2006 09:47

Even if you can't sign the petition, forward it on to your friends and
family who live in Minnesota.

Every signature is significant!

~Frank
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: sibtham2
Date: Jul 12, 2006 10:10

LoneWriter,

then, good.

Sibtham

wrote:
> There is a team compiling the data. Some quotes were heard in person by
> community members during public forum. We have a strong case.
>
>
> sibtham2 wrote:
>> LoneWriter,
>>
>>
>> All these...
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: pdv
Date: Jul 13, 2006 13:31

After reading the petition, I've seen no indication that the council
has made any unfalse statements about the Hmong. Prostitution, forced
marriages, and underage marriages do occur in high numbers among the
Hmong.
pdv
LoneWriter wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Please sign the petition at
> http://www.petitiononline.com/HAC2006/petition.html
>
> The petition seeks a public apology from the Council, seek cutural
> representation at the Council, and for the Council to work with the
> community.
>
> Please forward to all your friends and associates. Your help is much
> appreciated. Contact me if you have any questions.
>
>
> Justice is a matter of choice - Thanks in advance for your help. ...
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Jul 13, 2006 13:47

pdv,

the people who were pointing finger as you did here, then i would like
to ask for concrete evidence and statistical data to support your claim
because one or two cases and gossip on the street cannot be made to
represent a whole race of people. give us the data to support your
claim, as we are men of wisdom, knowledge and understanding we dont
want gossip on the street or hearsay. i have made a newspaper staff
writer stopped writing bad rumors about hmong people, since a meeting
that hosted by the university. i marked her good on how it was
misinterpreted about one person to associate the whole race. i hope
that men/women of our calibre, as when ever we speak we should be able
to support the data and reason, or we should say in a plain opinion.

Born2beHmong
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: pdv
Date: Jul 13, 2006 14:14

Read the newspaper, talk to young Hmong girls (your cousins and
nieces?). Log onto the Minnesota Department of Corrections and you'll
find pictures of many Hmong inmates convicted of prostituting under age
girls. I'm sure you've gone to many Hmong weddings between an old man
and a teenage girl and donated your $50 or placed a boiled egg in the
hand of an adolescent bride while you tied white yarn on her wrists.
These things aren't a mystery. Tell the truth, don't cover up. The
truth hurts but each Hmong person needs to come to terms with the fact
that these things still happen. It's not pointing fingers or accusing,
it's being open and honest. I understand how many Hmong can become
defensive or be in denial when it comes to these things because it
tarnishes the Hmong reputation, but we all have to own up to the fact
that these social ills still exist in our community.
Born2beHmong wrote:
> pdv,
>
> the people who were pointing finger as you did here, then i would like
> to ask for concrete evidence and statistical data to support your claim
> because one or two cases and gossip on the street cannot be made to
> represent a whole race of people. give us the data to support your ...
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Re: Please sign petition - Seeking Accountability and Due Diligence from the Council of Asian Pacific Minnesotans         


Author: StickRice
Date: Jul 13, 2006 14:32

The Council on Asian Pacific Minnesotans (CAPM or the Council) is not
an independent organization and it is not an advocacy organization for
any particular group of people.

The Council is a State of Minnesota organization formed by statute to
advise the governor and legislators on issues related to, pertinent to,
and important to Minnesotans of Asian decent.

CAPM mostly held true to its mission under the previous two directors
(Alfonse De Leon [I think] and Lee Pao Xiong). Under the directorship
of Ms. Ilean Her the Council has gone from "advising" to "advocating".

The concern of those coordinating the petition and people who sign it
(myself included) is that this activism of CAPM on issues concerning
Hmong Minnesotans is being done without input from affected
stakeholders.

Moreover, those public statements of Ms. Her (their veracity
questionable) do not move forward the issues our Hmong community is
already working to sort out. And just as offensive, tax payers--Hmong
included--are picking up the tab for Ms. Her's views and personal
objectives.
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