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Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: kuamemiab
Date: Apr 1, 2008 10:50

On Apr 1, 6:55 am, ເຄຣຊີ້ແລຣີ້ yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 16, 4:59 pm, her...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>> On Mar 16, 11:52 am, vannasay hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Thanouxay,
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>>> Don't worry, that's the shortfall of the human nature with short
>>> memory, but plenty of self-seving extravagant
>>> pretentiousness...particularly that will make themselves feel good or
>>> even important for a few minutes...but it's all unconnected with the
>>> most painstaking reality in which the real merit needs action, then
>>> action is more important than word.
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>>> Vannassay,
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>>> On Mar 16, 2:25 am, thanouxay hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Dear,
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>>>> Everything is completely normal except you who is completely out of
>>>> context. Just recall how your life was and how your parents were
>>>> living 20 over years ago.
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>>>> I am exhausted by those who got short memory and shows arrogance
>>>> toward her/his past history except you are born in the State. Then
>>>> learn from your parent how was the situation then and only come and
>>>> show your arrogance here.
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>>>> You are the most ridiculous.
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>>>> Sok dee
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>>>> On Mar 16, 9:47 am, her...@hotmail.com wrote:
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>>>>> Some leaders, in 2008 --- in a society of which those leaders proclaim
>>>>> to be open, progressive, free, democratic, etc. --- drive out, in
>>>>> bullet proof 2008 Mercedes Benz or BMW, or some other luxrious western
>>>>> made vehicles......  no more than a few dozen kilometers from their
>>>>> capital.... to see a few dozen citizens who "returned" to the country
>>>>> to live like the poorest of European peasants lived in the 9th to 12th
>>>>> century, IN THE YEAR 2008.... and you gentle, smart people, inside and
>>>>> outside of Laos, PROUDLY BROADCASTED these pictures?
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>>>>> To tell the world HOW WELL THE LOVING, GENTLE LAO LEADERS are welcome
>>>>> these "misguided" people,,, back to where they belong?, a country of
>>>>> hope, prosperity, free, harmonious?
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>>>>> I mean, what is really wrong with you people?
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>>>>> This is the year 2008, not the year 1108 or even Fa Ngum's time.
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>>>>> Don't you think there is something FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with a society
>>>>> --- at least at the governance level --- when the leaders can drive in
>>>>> hundred thousand dollar western made luxurious vehicles to visit
>>>>> citizens, no more than a few dozen miles from their capital city,,,,
>>>>> citizens who look starved, frightened, disturbed (they may smile but
>>>>> they are afraid, disturbed, and not sure what's going on) ....
>>>>> citizens who have to use crudely made cattail-like brooms to sweep the
>>>>> dirty "streets" hours before the arrival of their leaders.... citizens
>>>>> who are given NOTHING MORE THAN A SACK of rice or two, worth no more
>>>>> than $1.00 or two, who are told to smile, to extend their hands, to
>>>>> welcome the good leaders.... citizens whose pictures are taken and
>>>>> loaded into the Internet almost as soon as those pictures are
>>>>> taken...to be broadcasted around the world...
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>>>>> You don't think there is something WRONG, fundamentally wrong --- or
>>>>> not working --- with such a society?
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>>>>> There's really nothing fundamentally wrong with those small, starved-
>>>>> looking people/children, y'know.... I was like one of those kids 30
>>>>> odd years ago, living in northern Vientiane, too,,,, so perhaps not so
>>>>> far away from that "welcome back" village....
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>>>>> But in my country ---- through a series of circumstances I had no
>>>>> country over I found myself growing and maturing in a society in MY
>>>>> COUNTRY here in the USA --- I and even the poorest children have
>>>>> access to all the things in the world, the bad, the good, and the
>>>>> ugly.  And we get to make choices, even very poor choices....
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>>>>> I can't believe y'all who took these pictures are so proudly
>>>>> exhibiting them, with the mighty and benevolent leaders of such a
>>>>> twisted little isolated communist country smiling so generously toward
>>>>> such starved-looking, desperate citizens, who LIVE --- not just look
>>>>> like it but actually live --- in some 12th century looking
>>>>> landscape.....
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>>>>> And the leaders are proud of these?  There is some thing not right
>>>>> about your thinking, if you think these pictures are pictures of a
>>>>> progressive, free, loving, and generous government/society.......- Hide quoted text -
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>> it is the MERIT of the "action" that counts, NOT simply that you take
>> some action!
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>> i can masturbate 5 hours a action and that's A LOT of "action", but
>> the merit of masturbation is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to be the same thing as
>> studying how how mitochondrians and hemoglobins work; or how you,
>> using valid statistical algorithms, calculate the SUCCESS CHANCES and
>> FAILURE chances of a certain thinking and the "action" put in place
>> BECAUSE OF such a thinking!
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>> surely people --- even those in Laos --- even those in higher places,
>> like Thanouxay, are CAPABLE of distinguishing between the MERIT of
>> some ACTIONS from others!
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>> ACTIONS that stem from THINKING and WORDS (thoughts) THAT produce
>> Yahoo, Microsoft, BMW, super-computer, the Internet, Toyota, Google,
>> etc. SEEM to be the kinds that SUCCESSFUL society and people emulate;
>> and those who emulate them better, take lead, creating more similar
>> "actions."
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>> "Actions" that produce poverty, or keep most people in the society in
>> restrictions --- either in physicality or thought or both --- like
>> Laos, Vietnam, China, North Korea, Burma, etc., because suc "actions"
>> STEM FROM the "thinking" (not other action but thinking) that says ONE
>> PERSON, one SYSTEM, knows best, knows it all, and ALL YOU HAVE TO DO,
>> all the citizens have to do, is SIMPLY behaves as IT, the "correct"
>> group or leadership WISELY and benevolently decree and peace,
>> prosperity, democarcy, etc. will EITHER continue to exist or expend in
>> such a way that the people/society will serve as a good working model
>> from broad people from across the world to see, to copy, to follow
>> ---------- SUCH idiotic "actions" and thinking can not, may not, be
>> criticized?
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> No Herlao, you are wrong and for once I would like to see if you can
> admit when you are wrong.  Action is what matters.  Thoughts are good,
> but unless they lead to action nothing happens.  You can think and
> philosophize all you want, but at the end of the day if you don't take
> ACTION, the kids will not get fed, the electricity and the water will
> be turned off, eventually you will get evicted.  You can study
> mitochondrion and hemoglobin all you want, but unless you start doing
> lab work, discover new breakthrough techniques, writing papers about
> your discoveries and get published, you have taken no ACTION.  You can
> yank on your MAA KOU for 5 hours, yes that's a lot of action and
> hopefully you'll get RESULT, but if you just sit back and think about
> feeding the kids in Phalak or the kids in White Water, unless you
> actually give them some food, they wont get fed.
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> You can criticize the Lao Government all you want, but that wont get
> the kids fed.  The Lao Government, on the other hand is feeding those
> kids.
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> The Lao Government is not the US Government.  They have totally
> different settings and resources to work with than the US Government.
> To try to compare the two is like comparing night and day or, as SSMM
> put it, apples to oranges.
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> Your friend,
> Larry- Hide quoted text -
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All,

Usually the decoy will be fed with rice, meat and wind but when they
get the wild one and not enough then the decoy will end up in the same
pot. Visiting and monitoring are two different way that they might
catch the theift because usually the theift only showed at night. By
the time the ambassador came, many might sick and die mysteriously.

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