Below is an alleged statement from Dr. Paoze Thao.

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.hmong/msg/d833482972006f78?&q=paoze+t...

My name is Paoze Thao. I am a Professor of Linguistics, Education and
Ethnic Studies at California State University, Monterey Bay. My other
disciplines include comparative international education, history of
education, policies studies and Teaching English and French as a
Second Language.

I firmly disagree with Dr. Kao Ly Yang's critical information provided
to you with respect to the fact that I operate based on my ideological
point of view. Please be aware that the information that she
discussed with
you in her email about the spelling terms "Hmong" and "Mong" are not
accurate. Since her information is not based on sound research, it is
biased and misleading.

The purpose of this response is two-fold:

Moobsib,

You say I put words into people's mouth. Answer these questions for me
or consider them at least. You wonder why I called those supporting
the 'Mong' term as separatists. According to Dr. Paoze Thao, the
premier leader of the touting the 'Mong' term, I can assure you, if
you have an objective mind, you will easily see that his agenda under
the Mong identity is nothing short of separatism at best and bigotry
and lies at worse.

1. "In the past, several terms have been coined for the two Mong/Hmong
groups by the Chinese..."
Why did he say there are "2 Mong/Hmong" groups? Do you agree with him
there are 2 groups? He says Hmong Leng are not Hmong at all. Is this
not separating Hmong Leng from Hmong Der?

Paoze Thao continues, "The Mong/Hmong prefer to be called 'Mong' and
'Hmong' referring to two classless egalitarian groups who call
themselves 'Mong' and 'Hmong.'"

Is this not separating, distinguishing, and dividing the Hmong people
into two different groups?

Again, you put words in my mouth. The above are not my words, o.k.!!!!
Ua caag es yuav xaav luam neeg taag npaud os... Koj twb lees paub hais
tias Hmoob Dawb thiab Moob Leeg yeej sis cais tsi tau no ua cas pheej
yuav mus muab tej issues no coj los hais? Koj twb lees paub tias
Hmoob Dawb thiab Moog Leeg yeej sis faib tsi tau ua cas pheej yuav mus
muab tej neeg uas luag muaj different views coj los cem "tuag, noj
neeg, Ntxuag, Nplim Txuas Quav, thiab qhov pim qhov qau" ua tus dab
tsi? Yog koj yeej tsi muaj bad intention ua cas koj ho tsi ntxov hais
li koj hais rau Tseemyeej "Hmoob hlub Hmoob"? Peb cov niag Mung Ntxuag
twb tuag tag lawm es koj pheej hu kom sawv rov los ua tus dab tsi maj?
Zaum no koj xav nrog kuv tuag lawm lov?

MS

Looks like someone wants to divide Hmong into two ethnic groups. One is
Hmong and another is Mong. So, which ethic are you from? Hmong or Mong?

On Jul 26, 12:55 pm, pebhmong hmong.com> wrote:

Nrog neeg ruam tham mas nyuab tiag!!!

At least Dr. Paoze piav tau muaj paus muaj ntsis tsis zoo li Zhen
thiab Kao Ly nkawd es kaug ub kaug no. Txhob rawm hais txog cov sib
cais, yav thov Kao Ly thiab Zhen neb ho debate tuaj saib neb lub basis
for arguing nrog Dr. Paoze yog li cas. Agree or disagree, at least
Dr. Paoze hais tau li ib tus neeg xav tswv yim.

ruamuag@hotmail.com wrote:

Are you Hmong, or Mong? Just answer that simple question. We will go
from there.

MS,

Did I say these are your words? Read the title of the post, please.
It's okay if you don't answer. I don't expect much, if anything, from
you anyways.

Thanks for your consideration.

On Jul 26, 1:31 pm, Moobsib gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 26, 1:32 pm, pebhmong hmong.com> wrote:

Should it matter whether I am a Moob Leeg or Hmoob Dawb.

ruam,

What do you see as the issues?

Thanks.

On Jul 26, 2:53 pm, ruam...@hotmail.com wrote:

Cov phoojywg e!,
Nej sim siab tom nej nruab qaum seb! Tsov twb pliab pliab yuav dhia
tuaj ntsiab nej hlab pas los mas. Tsov tsuas tos nrhw seb thaum twg
nej zog ntaug tag ces tso mam los ntxuav nej xwb na!

Peb txhua txhua tus Hmoob including Dr. Pob Zeb Thoj, Col. Haam Choj,
zhen, Tseemmong, Moobsib, Hmong-Lao and etc... los yeej xav kom peb
yog ib haiv neeg xwb. Nej tsis tas niam yuav nrhiav lus los sib dig
sib nkaug tag npaum li no lawm. Qhov uas Dr. Pob Zeb hais, nws tsuas
yog create new terms hais tias siv los lus "Mong" no stand for "Hmong
Leng" hos lo lus "Hmong" no stand for "Hmong Der" xwb. Qhov no tsis
tau txhais hais tias Mong thiab Hmong yog ob haiv neeg. Thov tsis
txhob xawb xawb lus los hais kom muaj chaw tu siab lawm. Peb ib tswm
yeej yog ib haiv neeg, tseem niaj hnub yog ib haiv neeg, thiab yuav
yog ib haiv mus tag lub neej txoj sia, kom txog hnub uas tsis muaj lub
npe Hmoob nyob rau lub ntiaj teb.