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Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: dony
Date: Aug 26, 2008 15:29

On Aug 26, 3:00 pm, vimhlub gmail.com> wrote:
> Yawm SimKoo nuav sau English tsis tshua raug tawmsim kuj nyeem tau
> ntawv Hmoob hab laiv yuam?
>
> On Aug 26, 2:53 pm, sipkongc...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>> This guy by the name Moua Toua Ther  started his life as a freedom
>> fight in the jungle of Laos under the fake leadership of Neohom Pod
>> Puai Xat Lao. The so called " Neohom" group told them to fight for
>> nearly 30 years with all flat lie lie lei and lie...  Moua Toua Ther
>> had no choice in life. His superior Moua Cher Passed away. Moua lost
>> his arm and later hid himself from day to day in the Thai side.
>> However, the Nehom group kept telling the lies that Moua Toua Ther was
>> still a great fighter in Laos.  Moua ran out of patients, he finally
>> bought a Thai ID and lived with his Moua relatives in Tak province.
>
>> Moua's action is truely a criminal.. But he ran out of choices.. he
>> was so frustrated because his newly wife told him that she will report
>> him to the Thai authority. The arguments were way beyond Moua's fear.
>> One way or the other, Moua knew he will be caught. So he acted out of
>> anger, frustrated and finally killed his wife..
>
>> Moua started his life as a brave freedom fighter.  But at the end...
>> he ended up as a criminal... I feel sad for him... Moua fought for the
>> wrong causes and the wrong boss i guess.
>
>> Sip.
>
>> On Aug 25, 9:45 pm, Pobntool...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>> Xws li nej coob tus twb paub thiab tuaj nrog peb sab laj tawm tswv yim
>>> txog peb yawg hlob MTT lub txim lawm tiam sis nej coob tus kuj ho tsis
>>> tau paub txog. Kuv muab zaj xwm no rau nej sim ho tawm tswv yim saib
>>> zaum no peb yuav ua li cas thiaj li tso tau nws tawm hauv nkuaj los.
>>> Hmoob tsis hlub Hmoob tiag es leej twg thiaj li yuav hlub Hmoob, thaum
>>> ua tej yam txhaum lawm yuav kawg nej cov nyob sab nrau pab xauj saib
>>> puas pom lwm txoj kev lawm xwb. Raws li txiv huab tais peb ces lub
>>> tswv yim kawg saib nyiaj puas yuav txhiv tau yawg dim lawm xwb, tiam
>>> sis twb tau ntev loo lawm peb yeej kev tsis tau nyiaj pes tsawg li
>>> thiab es nej sim ho nrog tawm tswv yim thiab saib zaum no peb yuav ua
>>> li cas yog tias peb li members pab nyiaj tsis txaus nas.
>
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>>> Subject: Hais txog Moua Thua Ter
>
>>> Ib tsoom Hmoob,
>
>>> Qhia rau nej paub me ntsis txog ntawm Mua Thua Ter raug ntes, es kom
>>> sawv daws thiaj tsis rov dag tus kheej uas tseem yuav mus tsim kev kub
>>> ntxhov rau lwm tus. Muaj tej tus neeg mas xav hais tias yog kuv koom
>>> tes nrog ntes Moua THua Ter.
>
>>> Qhov tseeb, yog lub 6-4-08, muaj ib co kwvtij Hmoob Mua nyob Dej Dawb
>>> txawm muab Muas Thuam Ter ib daim duab thaum hluas tuaj ntxias ib tug
>>> poj niam ntxhais Hmoob Tsheej kom mus yuav Mua Thua Ter.  Thaum lav
>>> ntxias tus poj niam ntawd mas lawv hais tias Mua Thua Ther muaj npe
>>> yuav mus xamphaj tom UN bangkok mus txawv tebchaws. Yog nws yuav ces
>>> kom coj nws 4 tug menyuam thiab es mus lawv yuav ntxiv npe mus
>>> xamphaj.
>
>>> Tus poj niam Hmoob Tsheej ntawd tus txiv khiav rov mus nplog lawm,
>>> tseg lawv cov niam tub nyob. Ces cov Hmoob Mua them 6000 npaj nqi
>>> tshoob rau dablaug. Lawv coj tus poj niam thiab cov menyuam mus txog
>>> no, ua cas Muas Thua Ter laus laus, plaub hau dawb tag, ho tsis muaj
>>> npe mus xamphaj li hais tiag.
>
>>> Tus poj niam txawm tsis kam yuav, thiab yuav khiav rov los rau Dej
>>> Dawb. Ces loss txog rau July 3, 2008, Moua Thua The thiab ob tug txiv
>>> neej Hmoob txawm muab tsheb thauj cov niam tub hais tias yuav cov rov
>>> mus rau Dej Dawb. Lawv thauj cov niam tub tawm  hauv zos thaum 12 moos
>>> ib tag hmo mu lawm.
>
>>> Thaum mus dhau zos kiag xwb, ces Mua Thua ter txawm kom tus poj niam
>>> them nws 6000 baht nyiaj rau Mouas Thua Ter. Tus poj niam hais tias
>>> tsis muaj nyiaj lawm. Tos mus txog DejDawb, mam kom dablaug them rov
>>> rau. Ces all at the sudden, Muas Thua Ter xuas ib tug qws ntaus tus
>>> ntxhais hlob hu ua Choo no taub hau ntshav liab vog ces leejniam mus
>>> qawm lias tus ntxhais 15 xyoo tias kom txhob ntaus. Ces Mouas Thuam
>>> Ter tig loo qws rau leej niam taub hau. Leej niam tawm plaws hauv
>>> tsheb khiav rau nram qab ke, ces ob tug txiv neej, (Wa Thao Vue thiab
>>> Chong Moua nrog Muas Thua Ter raws mus ntes leej niam. thaum lawv tawm
>>> mus ces cov me ntxhais tawm hauv tsheb khiav mus kaum lawm thiab.
>
>>> Ib pliag zoj xwb, lawv hnov lawv niam quaj ib suab tias, " Niam aw pab
>>> os!!!" no ces ntsiag to lawm.
>
>>> Cov menyuam ntshai heev, lawv nkaum tim sib sab hill tagkis kaj ntug,
>>> lawv mam mam los xuaj qhov chaw no, peb tug men tseem nyob. The men
>>> thiaj hu kom cov menyuam rov los, yuav coj lawv mus tsev. Cov menyuam
>>> nug tias lawv niam ne, ces Moua Thua ther hais tias, twb coj leejniam
>>> rov mus tsev lawm. Tsuas yog tuaj tos cov menyuam rov qab thiab xwb.
>>> Kom cia li  los, yuav rov mus tsev.
>
>>> Cov menyuam ntshai, lawv tsis kam los, ces the three men chased after
>>> cov menyuam. Lawv sib tw khiav taug kev tsheb. Muaj hmoo, muaj ob lub
>>> tsheb tub rog los pem Phaj Mab los. ces cov mentxhais thov thov thov
>>> kom pab lawv. ob lub tsheb nres, ces pom Mua THuam thawj lawv raws qab
>>> los. Cov Thaib nug, cces Moua Thua Ther hais tias cov menyuam ntawd
>>> yog nws li, nws yog lawv txiv, yuav coj lawv rov mus tsev xwb. Tabsi
>>> cov menyuam tsis kam.
>
>>> Thaib thiaj hais tias yog li yog Moua Thua ther xav tau cov menyuam,
>>> kom mus lawm nram Policce station.
>
>>> Ces Thaib thauj cov menyuam lawm. Mouas thua Ther lawv rov qab lawm.
>
>>> Thaum los txog nram police station, cov menyuam mam qhia tag rog rau
>>> thaib, ces tus ntxhais hlob, Chong coj tub ceev xwm rov mus txog pem
>>> qhov qub chaw, lawv mus nrhiav, pom leej niam tuag nram qab ke. Nws
>>> lub caj qab hlais yuav luag tug, li hais qaib.
>
>>> Lawv nrhiav tsis tau Muas Thua Ther lawv, ces thiaj mus nrhiav rau pem
>>> lub zos ua lawv nyob. Lawv nhrhiav tau 15 hlub tsis tau, ces thaib
>>> thiaj hais rau tus Phubyaim Ban hais tias, yog nws tsis mus coj kom
>>> tua Mua Thua Ther los rau Thaib, ces nws yuav raug txim. Yog li, tus
>>> PhubYaim Npab no thiaj ua ib siab mus coj tau Moua Thua Ter los rau
>>> Thaib.
>
>>> Mas tej no, yog criminal. Tua neeg npog nroj ntsuab lawm tiag.
>
>>> Raws li cov menyuam piav, yog hais tias lawv tsis khiav, ces lawv sob
>>> niam tub tuag tas tibsi hmo ntawd, ces tsis muaj neeg paub what
>>> happened.
>
>>> Cov kwvtij Hmoob muas nyob Dej Dawb mus thov neejtsa, muab 10000 baht
>>> mus thov kom txhob hais, lawv mam pam leejniam. Thaum lawv mus thov
>>> lub cev tom Thaib los pam, ces Thaib hais tias tau kawg, yog leejtwg
>>> yuav coj lub cev mus pam, ces kom come up with a 250,000 baht, ces coj
>>> mus tau. Ces tsis muaj neeg muaj nyiaj yuav mus pam tus poj niam
>>> ntawd.
>
>>> Ygo leejtwg xav paub ntxiv, hu mus nug cov kwvtij tim Dej Dawb los
>>> tau.
>
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Cov phoojywg,

Tej xwm txheej no yog muaj tseeb mas kuj yog ib qho phem kawg. Tab
sis ua li nej tus puav hais sawvdaws cav tsis tau hnov ob tog lus. Vim
peb sawvdaws twb nyob lub teb chaws civilized lawm ua ntej peb yuav
dhia ceg siab ceg qis peb yuav tau paub kom meej, solid evidences, tso
mam hais yus tej lus tag tag yeeb vim tsam lwm hnub yus hu yus cov lus
tsis rov qab.
Pob ntoos, yus tsis nyiam luag qhabnab los xij tab sis txhob coj li
tej laus uas tsis muaj kev kawm txawj. Koj twb yog ib tug muaj
education siab koj yuav tau ceev koj lub meej mom kom tsim nyog. Phiaj
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