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NewYork time article on VP         


Author: Kao-Ly Yang
Date: May 10, 2008 17:21

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Gen.Vang Pao's Last War

By TIM WEINER
Published: May 11, 2008
The wars of the 20th century destroyed many millions of people who once
lived in the hillsides and valleys of remote rural worlds. Few were hit as
hard as the Hmong, an ancient tribe whose members hewed out rough lives
upcountry in Laos, west of Vietnam. Half a century ago, Laos became a
cockpit of the cold war. The Hmong, led by a charismatic soldier named Vang
Pao, sided with the United States in the fight against Communism in
Southeast Asia. They lost everything - their land, their way of life, their
country.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/magazine/11pao-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=ma...
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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: ctj
Date: May 10, 2008 19:15

The tide is turning. The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
searches for the truth. Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile. It's
time to go on the offensive.

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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: tsoomhmoob
Date: May 11, 2008 08:31

On May 10, 7:15 pm, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
> The tide is turning.  The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
> searches for the truth.  Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
> since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile.  It's
> time to go on the offensive.

ctj,

and this is how VP's life always end up with. From left to right and
vice-versa people gains a lot of credits through VP's name - including
the US govt. LOOK AT BUSH. I recall VP was a strong supporter to
Bush's campaign in MN in Oct. 2004.

As from the Hmong, many Hmong took VP's effort for granted -
especially Hmong political groups. WHEN THEY CAUGHT FISHES, THEY ALL
ATE IT WITHOUT VP. WHEN THEY CAUGHT SNAKES, THEY ALL THROWN IT ON
VP.

I've seen the burden VP carries throughout the years. I am certain
there are few Hmong out there who was behind the "OPERATION TARNISHED
EAGLE" because VP is the tarnishing "eagle" and the US govt
intentionally...
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Author: listhoj1234
Date: May 12, 2008 13:54

On May 11, 10:31 am, tsoomhm...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On May 10, 7:15 pm, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> The tide is turning.  The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
>> searches for the truth.  Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
>> since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile.  It's
>> time to go on the offensive.
>
> ctj,
>
> and this is how VP's life always end up with.  From left to right and
> vice-versa people gains a lot of credits through VP's name - including
> the US govt.  LOOK AT BUSH.  I recall VP was a strong supporter to
> Bush's campaign in MN in Oct. 2004.
>
> As from the Hmong, many Hmong took VP's effort for granted -
> especially Hmong political groups.  WHEN THEY CAUGHT FISHES, THEY ALL
> ATE IT WITHOUT VP.  WHEN THEY CAUGHT SNAKES, THEY ALL THROWN IT ON
> VP.
> ...
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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: hmoobthawj
Date: May 12, 2008 16:16

On May 12, 3:54 pm, listhoj1...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 11, 10:31 am, tsoomhm...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 10, 7:15 pm, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>> The tide is turning.  The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
>>> searches for the truth.  Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
>>> since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile.  It's
>>> time to go on the offensive.
>
>> ctj,
>
>> and this is how VP's life always end up with.  From left to right and
>> vice-versa people gains a lot of credits through VP's name - including
>> the US govt.  LOOK AT BUSH.  I recall VP was a strong supporter to
>> Bush's campaign in MN in Oct. 2004. ...
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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: muatony
Date: May 12, 2008 17:00

On May 12, 7:16 pm, hmoobth...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On May 12, 3:54 pm, listhoj1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 11, 10:31 am, tsoomhm...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>> On May 10, 7:15 pm, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> The tide is turning.  The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
>>>> searches for the truth.  Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
>>>> since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile.  It's
>>>> time to go on the offensive.
>
>>> ctj,
>
>>> and this is how VP's life always end up with.  From left to right and
>>> vice-versa people gains a lot of credits through VP's name - including ...
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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: dokchampa
Date: May 12, 2008 17:07

Nej puas tau ntsia daim VDO interview nrog GVP? Leej twg yog cov
txhais cov lus (sub-title)? Vim li cas es yuav txhais tau tuag aws
tag npaum li ntawd? Twb muab tsis tau GVP cov lus lub ntsiab li thiab
tseem ntxiv ib co ntxiv rau thiab. Hmoob ua dab tsi yuav tsum
professional me ntsi thiab. Yog yus tsis paub lub Hmoob thiab lus
Askiv sib xws tsis txhob mus ua hauj lwm txhais luag tej lus. Tus
neeg yuav los txhais lus yuav tsum paub lus Hmoob thiab lus Askiv kom
tob ib yam.
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Author: hmoobthawj
Date: May 12, 2008 17:36

On May 12, 7:00 pm, muat...@gmail.com wrote:
> On May 12, 7:16 pm, hmoobth...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 12, 3:54 pm, listhoj1...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>> On May 11, 10:31 am, tsoomhm...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>>> On May 10, 7:15 pm, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> The tide is turning.  The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
>>>>> searches for the truth.  Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
>>>>> since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile.  It's
>>>>> time to go on the offensive.
>
>>>> ctj,
> ...
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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: Pao
Date: May 12, 2008 18:52

On May 11, 12:15 pm, "ctj" nospam.com> wrote:
> The tide is turning. The facts about the Hmong are coming out as the media
> searches for the truth. Already the world has learned more about the Hmong
> since Vang Pao’s indicted then in the last forty years of exile. It's
> time to go on the offensive.
>
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I agree with ctj.

But the Hmong have to be ready. Are we READY to go on the offensive?

Think about this... there are only TWO persons who started the chain
of actions to created the USA.. and only some 40 odd people with the
gut to sign the Declaration of Independence for the creation of the
United States of America.!
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Re: NewYork time article on VP         


Author: Thornspear
Date: May 12, 2008 21:26

Raw le kuv tug laug nuav xav xwb mas peb Moob feem coob yeej tsis lam
yuav kaam moog theej txhoj, leej twg xav noj xav haus cas tug hov moog
rig nwg lub txhoj xwb,kuv paub zoo lawm tas mej qe leej mas yeej tuam
yeem moog theej yawg hlob vp lub txim, txawm yog le hov es thaum yaw
raug kaw nkuaj mej coob leej thaj le yuav volunteer moog replace nwg
tom nkuaj. What vp did not for hmong cause but only cause hmong bad
name and fell to sinking the bottom, another word he not did for hmong
but for himself, for his own private group to benefit, now let him and
his thugs face the consequence, hope the thugs be grill by united
state constitution and put into closure soon, many luck to the thugs.

On May 12, 7:07 pm, dokcha...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Nej puas tau ntsia daim VDO interview nrog GVP?  Leej twg yog cov
> txhais cov lus (sub-title)?  Vim li cas es yuav txhais tau tuag aws
> tag npaum li ntawd...
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