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Author: muatonymuatony Date: Aug 16, 2008 12:42
Ib tsoom phoojywg Moob,
Kuv tau tuaj twm peb Moob kev sib caav ntawd tej laaj faab tswvyim
nyob rua huv SCH nuav tau le ntawd 4 lub xyoo lug nuav. Kuv xaam pum
tas peb Moob tseem tshuav dleb heev has txug kev sibhlub, sib hum xeeb
moog lawm nyaav pegsuab. Xw le peb Moob nrug ib tug Bloojtsawb sib
caav ib issue mas ib ntsi txawm muaj ib yawm Moob tawm tuaj tshev yawm
moob ntawd yaam tsi txuag ntsej txuag muag. Kuv xaav tas yog zoo le
nuav xwb, Piv: le Tseemyeej hab cwjmem 2 tug yog tas ib leeg raug
teebmeem rua ib leej pum los tshe kev sib paab yuav tsi muaj nawb.
Mej nrov lug observe saib seb cov phoojywg Bloojtsawb nuav puas sib
thuam le peb Moob nab yog has txug national issue.
Xw le zhen lub laajfaab tswv8 lug thuam Moob Leeg los siv tsi tau vim
le caag es Moobsib txhaj tsi txua zhen lub ntsej muag vim peb ib leeg
yuav tsum respect ib leeg hab has nyob rua neutral kom suavdlawg yuav
tau, it is not 100%% agreee but 51%% agree is acceptabel and it is the
best path or majority choice ( democracy ). Yog peb sib thuam, sib
tshum le nyob huv nuav xwb kuv quarantee tas thaum peb muaj 1 issue
tseemceeb los Moob yeej sib tshum le nuav taag moog le.
Mej xaav le caag? need all opinion.
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Author: tseemyeejtseemyeej Date: Aug 16, 2008 14:56
MT,
I think what you've seen in SCH is only the tip of the iceberg, if you
dare diving deep down Hmoob lub siab mas koj yuav pom tias nws tseem
dub tshaj lub ncaig lawm thiab os. Hmoob tseem nyob ntu sib dag noj
sib dag haus thiab sib iab liam xwb, tsis tau txog ntu sib pab li
nawb.
Koj saib, ib qho ntawm qhov zhen cem kuv heev-v ces twb yog vim kuv ti
thaiv nej cov Hmoob Lees ntag ne, thaum zhen tso nej tseg es tig loo
rau kuv lawm, nej leej twg, cov Hmoob Lees, hos tawm tuaj pab ti thaiv
kuv maj? Kuv saib ntau zaus nej yeej tsuas xia kom nej dim xwb thiab
ne. Thaum ntxov ub zhen yeej tsis ntxub kuv ua luaj twg thiab, nws
tsuas hais hauj sim xwb, tabsis yeeb vim muaj tib neeg xij pheej add
the fuel rau nws es nws thiaj muaj-j siab cem xwb.
It's ok, thaum nws cem-m txaus ces nws mam tig rov los hais zoo los
tsis lig li os, tsuav yus coj kom tus-s xwb.
TseemYeej.
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Author: zhenzhen Date: Aug 16, 2008 15:48
> Xw le zhen lub laajfaab tswv8 lug thuam Moob Leeg los siv tsi tau vim
hais dab tsi mas hais kom muaj tseeb maj. txhob lam dag laiv. nej ib
co hmoob hauv no yeej tau hais tias, "mong is not hmong" no tiag tiag
naj. even dr pao ze thao's website makes such claims as that "mong and
hmong" are two different "races". would you like to debate this
again?
vim li caag koj ho pum kuv tshev hab thuam mej xwb? es koj ho tsis pum
mej tuaj thuam hmoob le hab? yog koj hais ncaaj zoo dlua ov.
> le caag es Moobsib txhaj tsi txua zhen lub ntsej muag vim peb ib leeg
> yuav tsum respect ib leeg hab has nyob rua neutral kom suavdlawg yuav
YTMS nam yuav txhuav txhuav kuv le hab hog. koj tsis pum YTMS twb tuaj
tshev kuv ua "txa kua", "nplim" hab lov? mej cov nam mong power yeej
tsis txhuav kuv le hos. tseem muaj cov nam mong power le noogdlej,
txhojpob, suabnoog, vaajmoob, etc.. etc... coob coob tuaj hais kuv lub
pim rau kuv hab. tsis taag le hov, twb tsis pum ib co moob dlawb tuaj
sib koom sab tuav tes tshev mej ib tug le mej khwv tswv yim ua rau kuv
hab.
hais lus kuas ncaaj maj.
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Author: zhenzhen Date: Aug 16, 2008 16:03
> Koj saib, ib qho ntawm qhov zhen cem kuv heev-v ces twb yog vim kuv ti
tsis yug le kov hais ko hab hog. wb sib tshev twb vim kuv noog kov miv
miv txug vim le caag kov ho lam tshev tas, "moob yog mercenaries" nuav
naj.
> thaiv nej cov Hmoob Lees ntag ne, thaum zhen tso nej tseg es tig loo
> rau kuv lawm, nej leej twg, cov Hmoob Lees, hos tawm tuaj pab ti thaiv
> kuv maj? Kuv saib ntau zaus nej yeej tsuas xia kom nej dim xwb thiab
tseemyeej aws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kuv rov mus nyeem koj cov qub lus koj
tshev tshev cov "dlev vwm" es tuaj tshum lyteck hov mas, ib tug tuab
neeg zoo le kov nam yuav yuav (need) tuab neeg tuaj tiv thaiv os. muaj
pob txhas khov kho le koj es tseem challenge kom lawv tuaj kag tum koj
tsev hais kag nuav naj. keej npaum le hov lawm, xob to taub yuam kev
nawb. kawg tas, koj tshev charlie tag xwb, kuv nyeem, charlie twb
ntshai koj tsim tsawv lawm, los koj lub sab tsis kheev le, koj ob tug
kaus tseem tum rawv charlie hlaab paas. ua ua koj saib maj, charlie
nrug tswv xyaas moog lawm tag tag ov.
> ne. Thaum ntxov ub zhen yeej tsis ntxub kuv ua luaj twg thiab, nws
> tsuas hais hauj sim xwb, tabsis yeeb vim muaj tib neeg xij pheej add
> the fuel rau nws es nws thiaj muaj-j siab cem xwb.
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Author: MoobsibMoobsib Date: Aug 16, 2008 16:38
Zhen,
Puab nim ua luaj dlag ca wb maam si tw dhla lab qaab ua ke rua puab
saib es puab sab txhaj nqeg, yuam? hahahahahahahahaha......
Puab yawm hab puab puj,
Txawm yuav has mob npaum twg los tsuav yog peb ncu nroov tas yog yug
tug nyuas Hmoob xwb ces tau lawm. Le caag los xij, tsuav yog Tooj
txhob tua Tooj xwb ces tau lawm...
MS
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Author: yoojyimyoojyim Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:05
Hag txug Moobleeg hab Moobdlawb mas peb yuav siv sijhawm ntau npaum
twg los yeej has tsis taag nawb. Yuav yog txug lubcaij Moob muaj
tebchaws ua Moob tug lawm mas thaum ntawd tej lug peb siscaav txhaj
yuav paub taa
---that is when we(Moobleeg and Hmoobdawb) are at war,
killing each other. Those still alive at the end of the killing fields
will decide who is the best.
yim
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Author: pebhmoobruampebhmoobruam Date: Aug 16, 2008 17:43
On Aug 16, 2:42Â pm, muat...@ gmail.com wrote:
> Ib tsoom phoojywg Moob,
To me I blain no one. As I recalled in the past everyone were
tseemyeej enermy including Zhen, Crazy Larry, Dr. Pao, hmoobvajusa,
hmoobthawj, cwjmwm, yajy, charlie and the list going on. May be
including phwvnyawj, who know because phwvnyawj is good in hiding
agenda. I do not know why but it could be related to what he and his
brother action in him heup and Lao, who know?
Will, you like or not the Hmong, Mong in separate more than the Lao
and Thai including custom and language. Better let us be two will be
better than one unless we treat each other equally. Vp as a Hmong
become leader so the Hmong think they are superior than the Mong, they
never think that we are one okay. Oh, whatever we will be America any
way in the next generation and the Hmong, Mong will lelf behide and be
history for sure. 3mr
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Author: muatonymuatony Date: Aug 18, 2008 14:43
On Aug 16, 5:56Â pm, tseemyeej gmail.com> wrote:
> MT,
>
> I think what you've seen in SCH is only the tip of the iceberg, if you
> dare diving deep down Hmoob lub siab mas koj yuav pom tias nws tseem
> dub tshaj lub ncaig lawm thiab os. Hmoob tseem nyob ntu sib dag noj
> sib dag haus thiab sib iab liam xwb, tsis tau txog ntu sib pab li
> nawb.
>
> Koj saib, ib qho ntawm qhov zhen cem kuv heev-v ces twb yog vim kuv ti
> thaiv nej cov Hmoob Lees ntag ne, thaum zhen tso nej tseg es tig loo
> rau kuv lawm, nej leej twg, cov Hmoob Lees, hos tawm tuaj pab ti thaiv
> kuv maj? Kuv saib ntau zaus nej yeej tsuas xia kom nej dim xwb thiab
> ne. Thaum ntxov ub zhen yeej tsis ntxub kuv ua luaj twg thiab, nws
> tsuas hais hauj sim xwb, tabsis yeeb vim muaj tib neeg xij pheej add
> the fuel rau nws es nws thiaj muaj-j siab cem xwb.
>
> It's ok, thaum nws cem-m txaus ces nws mam tig rov los hais zoo los
> tsis lig li os, tsuav yus coj kom tus-s xwb.
> ...
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Author: zhenzhen Date: Aug 18, 2008 18:21
> Kuv tsi yog lug nrhav lug has phem rua koj hab ab lam koj tabsi koj
> nrov moog twm koj cov lug kws koj has rua vaajmoob hab Moobsib xwb.
koj tsis xav nrhiav, tiam si koj yeej nrhiav tiag tiag neb yom. ua li
kuv hais, koj hais dab tsi, hais kom ncaj. koj kuj mus nyeem koj tsu
me vaajmoob thiab MS cov lus rau kuv xwb. be fair, be neutral es zoo
li koj hais no xwb ntag?
> Peb suavdlawg tsi yog miv nyuam yau es koj tseem yuav noog kuv tas
> puas muaj tseeb.
koj tsis yog me nyaum koj thiaj li hais ib mong power sab xwb ne. kuv
paub tseeb tias cov mong power tsis yog me nyuam yaus, kuv thiaj tsis
txaus siab rau nej cov neeg laus neeg ntse no tias, "vim li cas nej
thiaj li xav tias, mong is not hmong" no naj. kuv thov koj pab qhia
kuv seb yom?
> Lu lug Hmong hab Mong yog lug ntawd lub suab xwb, pronumciation, vim
> peb tsi txawj sib has, yuav kom hum koj sab xwb los tsi tau, hum kuv
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Author: DownUnderDownUnder Date: Aug 18, 2008 19:20
It is not accurate to say so and so are "enemy" of so and so...
pebhmoobr.. you may need to retracted your statement! if you mean
"enemy".
There are certainly many issues that many of us cannot agree with one
another and many have agree to disagree with each others. Some may
take a bit further and make it to be personal or venture into personal
attack and/or character assassination - but this is just a reflection
of those people who choose to take that path. Others simply react as
Newton 1st law - every action create an equal and opposite reaction...
and certainly this is the norm for many people in the internet world.
cheerio...
On Aug 17, 10:43 am, pebhmoobr...@ yahoo.com wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2:42 pm, muat...@ gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Ib tsoom phoojywg Moob,
>
> To me I blain no one. As I recalled in the past everyone were
> tseemyeej...
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