Kuv muab xav los lawm ntev. Muaj tej thaum, kuv tseem ntshai hais
tias kuv haiv neeg Hmoob thiab peb lub neej thiab tej txuj ci Hmoob
yuav tu noob vim peb cov tswv yim tsis duav los mus coj peb lub neej
tshiab nyob rau lub zim txwv 21 no lawm. Kuv muab ib qho los hais,
nej nrog kuv xav saib kuv hais puas yog.

Peb Hmoob muaj ntau yam tswv yim qhia me tub me nyuam nyob rau hauv
peb lub neej ua tshwm sim los ntawm dab neeg thiab tej zaj tshoob txiv
xaiv, tej lus foom kom. Xws li, peb muaj lus qhuab qhia kom peb tej
me tub me nyuam tsis txhob deev luag poj luag sev, txhob twv txiaj
yuam pov, txhob ua tub sab tub nyiag, txhob mloog luag ntxia, etc.
etc...

Muaj ib yam uas peb haiv neeg tsis muaj mas yog peb tsis muaj cov tswv
yim los qhuab qhia txog "temptation". Xws li peb twb tsis muaj los
lus no nyob hauv peb haiv neeg. "Temptation" no kuj txawv me...

yawg duck,

koj xav tias hmoob tsis muaj IB lo lus rau "temptation" lov? tej zaum
yog tiag, tiam si, koj txhob lam xav yuam kev tias hmoog tsis paub
txog "temptation" los tsis muaj dab neeg piav txog "temptation". yog
koj tseem xav li ntawv thiab ces koj phim kuv hu ua yawg duck kawg
nkaus.

koj cov lus no, feem ntau, twb tsis muaj pov thawj (evidence). zoo li
khaus koj qhov twg koj cia li tuaj hais tsab ntse xwb. koj tej lus li
hmoob tsawg tsawg tiam si muaj kev qias neeg ntau tshaj lwm haiv neeg,
thov koj ua ib tug duck muab koj cov statistics los seb yom? yog koj
hais raws opinion (kev xav) xwb, ces cia li. tiam si yog koj hais cuag
li muaj tseeb, koj yog ib tug duck lawm, koj tau nrhiav pov thawj kom
tseeb tseeb nawb.

kev yuav niam hlob niam yau, tsis yog hmoob txawj xwb. xws li suav,
arabs, anglo-saxons, americans, etc... tag nrho twb txawj yuav. koj
nem tsis hnov txog nyob teb chaws amekas no es cov mekas dawb tawv
polygamist raug ntes ntag? vuag.

dokcha es, yog koj xaav has tas moob tsi muaj luh qhuav qha txug kev
pllej kev ntsaug ces koj moog noog moob cov lug foom kom thaum twg ib
tug luag noj tsi qaab nyob tsi zoo naj, qhov hov tsi yog tim moob
tabsi yog tim kev khwv noh khwv haug, kev lij kev cai nyob meskas
nuav, koj tsi paub has tas cov nam puj moob tuaj ntwg kuv tsev kawm
zoo noog mas coob tug puab cov quasyaw tsi paub has tas puab tuaj le
lov,
vmged
On May 4, 11:38 pm, dokcha...@yahoo.com wrote:

Phoojywg, Hmoob yeej muaj tej koj hais ko. Tabsis tsis tau muaj ibtug los
muab sau kom muaj ntaubntawv los rau Hmoob kawm xwb. Koj puas tau hnov
cov laus piav txog:

1. Ntujtsim tebraug
2. Xyivyis; Xyivyis no mas, cov laus pias haistias, nws zoo nkaus li
Tswvyesxus thiab Buddha nkawg ntag. Yog li niamno, Hmoob cov txivneeb,
thaum lawv ua neeb lawv thiaj li hu txog Xyivyis.

nej cov hluas no ua cas yuav sau ntawv ntau tag npauv li, kuv tus laus
no tsis muaj caij los twm nej tej ntawv kiag li lawm. tab sis cia kuv
los teb me me li no. raw li kuv xav yuav kom hmoob vam meej, peb yuav
tau muab peb hmoob tej qub txeeg qub teg thiab tej qub txuj ci tso
tseg cia ua puav pheej lawm xwb, tsis txhob muaj coj los siv lawm.
lub neej niam no thiab yav pem suab, peb yuav tsum tau los siv tej yam
tshiab coj los siv kom raws li lub caij nyob society. yog nej nyob
lub society tam sim no es nej tseem ho rov mus muab nej cov qub txuj
ci puag thauv coj los siv ntshe nej yuav poob qab dej nawb.

On May 5, 10:00 am, kwv...@aol.com wrote:

kuv tsab tus me ntiv tes xoos rau Kwvtij lawm nawb... ua koj tsaug
nawb "Kwv..."

tos peb pheej tham tsi sib haum li los, vim peb lub hlwb tseem xav
kiag li Hmoob/Moob xav xwb nawb. yog muaj ntau tus xav kiag li Kwv
xav ces peb mus ib theem deb tshaj no lawm aws. peb yuav tau xav li
luag lwm haivneeg li cov neeg tawvdawb no thiab, peb twb tuaj nyob lub
ntuj lawm yuav tau xyoo luag txuj, nyob li teb lawm yuav tau xyoo luag
ci tiag nawb.

#1 temptation for hmong ces yog cov christainity tuaj deev hmoob mus
church xwb mas....just look at the numbers..., muab hais dav thiab deb
ces yuav tsi nkag siab...hais yus kiag es lawd thiaj paub pob....

yaweh

Thov txim ua sau tau ntau zog lawm. Lus Hmoob ces tsis precise kiag
li (thiab peb los tsis keej siv li thiab) es pheej muab tsis tau lub
ntsiab li ces piav mus piav los. Ua siab ntev nyeem.

On May 5, 10:00 am, kwv...@aol.com wrote:

On May 6, 10:31 am, tsujsuadl...@hotmail.com wrote:

Yawg yauveb aw

Cov ntseeg cais yog paab cawm Hmoob txoj sia xwb os. Lawv hlub cov
niag Hmoob ruam ntawm es thaum ua neej los mag tsim txom ua neej poob
qab thiab txom nyem. Thaum tuag los tus ntsujplig tseem yuav mus raug
mus txom nyem lawm ntuj tawg dab teb ntuj khuav teb nkig es cov
Chriastian hlub lawv lub niag qhov xyuam thiab xav pab kom lawv dim
txoj kev txom nyem ntawm xwb os.

hmoob...

peb tsuas hais qhov "tseeb" xwb...tsi yog hais "belief"....if you want
to talk about beliefs, that is a different story. if you want to talk
about "tempation" as what it is, then i'm all ears...

yaweh