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Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: Hmong-Lao
Date: Oct 16, 2006 13:47

Cov phooj ywg,

Kuv pom nej ntau tus kuj sib cav pem txog qhov hais tias coj hom kev
cai twg zoo dua. Hnub no kuv ho yuav muab kuv li kev xav piav me me pub
rau nej thiab seb nej ho xav li cas.

I estimated that I spent 0.5/100 of my income for religious related
costs while my brother spents 10/100 of his famili income for religious
related costs. We both have an after life hope, and that is eternal
life in heaven (ceeb tsheej ntuj vs. yeeb ceeb teb).

Here is how I come with with that number, the 0.5100 number. I estimate
that four cow will be sacrify in my lifetime for my parents (Total cost
of about $4000 or ~ $60/yr for 70 years), two for each parent. One at
the funeral and one later on as nyuj dab. Three chickens a year (ua xwm
kab thiab hu plig & noj peb caug - $100/yr). Average of 1 thaj neeb or
hu plig in every 5 years which costs about $500 each ($100/yr). But
note that almost all the meat was and will be consumed by my own family
members and relatives.
Total expense for my religious related cost is about $260/yr based on
my average family income of $50,000/yr. There for, 260/50000 = 0.005 or
0.5/100.
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: Xejthim
Date: Oct 16, 2006 14:10

HL awd....es sub koj thiab koj tij laug nej nyias tseem ntseeg nyias ib
yam thiab ntag lov? Neb tsis ntshai tsam lwm hnub neb tsis sib ntsib
forever li lawm los cas maj, los yog cov hauv dab teb kuj ua tau
passport mus saib cov saum ceeb tsheej thiab ne...hahahha!!! Hais txog
qhov no tej zaum avang,lha thiab noogdlej lawv yuav teb tau. Muaj ib
tug txwj laug twb tias txawm yus niam yus txiv lawv tuag tag ua ntej
mus nyob hauv dab teb lawm los yus ntseeg Vajtswv niam no es lwm hnub
thaum yus mus txog saum ceeb tsheej yus thiaj i muaj percent ua qha
hoob tos lawv los rau ceeb tsheej. Kab tias qhov process nyaj tsuas ib
yam li ziag no peb tos tos tej kwv tij tim Laos tuaj xyuas peb tim US
no xwb.

Anyway, teb koj cov lus nug me ntsis. Qhov koj estimate tias ib xyoo
yuav cost koj li $260/yr ntawd ntshai koj muab estimate tsawg hwv lawm
paub....kuj depend saib koj puas yog ib tug spiritual person...
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Oct 16, 2006 16:16

Xej,

Koj mas has txug zaaj twg los yeej muaj zaaj-ntev/zaajntau nrug suav
dlawg caav. Zoo kawg. Koj puas ntseeg le koj has sau toj nuav hab maj?

Kuv mas kuv ho ntseeg has tas thaus kuv tuag lawd ces kuv cev nqaj rov
moog ua luaj, ua aav lawm xwb. Kuv yeej tsis muaj feeling dlaab tsi le
lawm. Kev nyuaj sab ntxhuv plawv, kev tshaib kev nqhes, kev zoo nyob
hab ib puas tsaav yaam kws kuv muaj thaus tseem muaj txujsa nyob ces
pluj plag rua thaus kuv txujsa tu nrho lawm xwb. Ntawd ces txawm yog
eternalty rua kuv lawm ntaag. Nuav yog kuv le kev to taub lug ntawm
txuj kev qhuab qha Christianity ntaag.

Kuv le kuv yeej tsis ua neeb ua yaig lug khu kuv tsev neeg txij le kuv
muaj puj, tubse lug. Yog tej txheebze muaj ces kuv moog paab noj xwb.
Kev tso nyaj rua huv tshawj los kuv tsuas tso le kuv muaj peev xwm xwb,
tsi yog ib 1/10. Vaaj Tswv yeej tsis tau demand kuas yug yuav tsum tso
1/10 txhaj le yuav tau txais nwg lub theejkab. Tawm sis kuv yeej to
taub tas tso 1/10 lug txhawb lub koomtxoos hab txuj kev nthuav ntawm
txuj kev ntseeg txhaj le yuav moog taug nua xwb.

moobsib
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: vaajmoob
Date: Oct 16, 2006 17:40

moob lauj, peb tsis muaj cov lawb dlaab le, muaj cov es moog coj dlua
lwm haiv tuabneeg le dlaab lawm xwb, peb tso dlaab puj dlaab yawg es
moog teev dlaab abraham lawm xwb, peb ib cov ce ho moog teev dlaab tua
teeb.

Hmong-Lao wrote:
> Cov phooj ywg,
>
> Kuv pom nej ntau tus kuj sib cav pem txog qhov hais tias coj hom kev
> cai twg zoo dua. Hnub no kuv ho yuav muab kuv li kev xav piav me me pub
> rau nej thiab seb...
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: phwvnyawm
Date: Oct 16, 2006 19:55

Hmoobnplog,

Koj nyob teb chaws no los koj nyob tim Nplog naj? koj muab hais sab peb
cov mus coj Vajtswv lawm nawb.
Ntawd qhov muaj 10/100 rau church mas luag yeej hais li ntawd tiag,kuj
tsis yog yuav yuam txhua txhia tus nyob ntawd yus muaj thiab tsis muaj.

Hais txog cov coj dab mas nyob MN thiab WI mas cov txiv neeb yuav kim
kawg lawm laid. 1 thaj neeb yaws cua mas tsis yog 500-800 mas lawv tsis
ua lawm nawb.Feem ntau mas yeej yog 800 xwb.Peb CA mas kuj...
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: Suabnoog
Date: Oct 16, 2006 20:52

Cov phoojywg,

Nej hais ko tsawg dhau lawm awb! Muaj ib lub church nyob rau St. Paul
lawv kam ua tagnrho yog $5,000,000 diam hos. Lub hlis tag los no lawv
nyuamqhua ua ib qhov fund raising es cov ntseeg lawv sawvdaws muab ib
zaub nkaus xwb yog $600,000 es kuv mus txog tod hnub Saturday lawv
tseem celebrate qhov ua lawv tau nyiaj ntauntau no ne.

Lawv muab npaumli los lawv tseem muaj tsheb, muaj vaj muaj tsev, muaj
saw kuv, muaj cuab muaj yig, muaj phoojywg muajywg ib yam li tej neeg
sawvdaws thiab as. Yog tias cov ntseeg muab tag es cia li pluagpluag
lawm no ntshe yuav tsis tsimnyog lawm thiab nawb. Yog kuv ntsib tom
kev kuv yeej tsis muaj peevxwm twv tau tias tus twg yog tus mus church
thiab tus twb yog tsis mus vim yog lawv kev tso nyiaj, tabsis qhov kuv
paub mas vim yog cov tseem cov qub kevcai pheejtseem muaj saw cajdab
lossis khi tes xwb.

suabnoog
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: cwjmem
Date: Oct 16, 2006 21:26

HL,

Kuv los pom zoo li koj hais thiab. Poj rhawv kab yawm nrhawv kev los
txij li thaum hmoob tswm sim los ua neeg nyob rau ntiaj teb. Peb cia
li yuav muab peb yam kab li kev cai tso tseg es mus ntseeg luag lwm cov
li no qhov nov kuv xaav mas tsis tsis nyog lawm ua peb poj peb yawg
nrog suav khoo tau muaj ntau pua tiam los, los lawv twb tsis tso tseg
lawv cov kev cai dab qhuas teev poj yawm txwv txoob. Think about it,
you are given back what they had given you...Life.

Hmong-Lao wrote:
> Cov phooj ywg,
>
> Kuv pom nej ntau tus kuj sib cav pem txog qhov hais tias coj hom kev
> cai twg zoo dua. Hnub no kuv ho yuav muab kuv li kev xav piav me me pub
> rau nej thiab seb...
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: zomlis
Date: Oct 16, 2006 22:53

When you give to God, god give some back to you - the 10%% contribution
to church cause is tax deductible. However, when you pay to dab - dab
just want more...tso plig, pauj (pauj yeem), nyuj dab...pauj, nyuj dab
again and again.

So in the long run, who is the winner here? or do I miss something?

Please spend your money celebrating your parents living with them while
they still live. Ask for their advise, wisdom, or what not now; don't
wait for the "txiv coj xai", which it could about $2000 that you forgot
to include in your expense, to tell you what your parents could have,
wanted, meant to tell you how to enbetter you life.

Hmong-Lao wrote:
> Cov phooj ywg,
>
> Kuv pom nej ntau tus kuj sib cav pem txog qhov hais tias coj hom kev
> cai twg zoo dua. Hnub no kuv ho yuav muab kuv li kev xav piav me me pub
> rau nej thiab seb...
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: mojthem
Date: Oct 17, 2006 03:48

Dear HL,

Kuv tsis hais txog nyiaj. Kuv yuav tsis hais tias taug txoj kev twg zoo
dua. Hmoob tsis muaj religious belief. Tabsis kuv xav tias taug txoj
twg los yeej tsis yog Hmoob kev cai tiagx. Yog tsis paub ces taug koj
tij laug txoj yuav zoo dua Hmoob txoj vim Hmoob txoj tsis yog religious
belief. Hmoob txoj yog cultural practices xwb uas tsis muaj
consistency. Ib xeem Hmoob xwb los dab qhuas txwv tas. Ntawm koj tij
laug txoj, coobx xeem Hmoob los siv tib phau bible thiab ntseeg tib tug
Yexus xwb ces kuv xav hais tias koj tij laug invest mus rau phab ntuj
ceeb tsheej ntau dua lawm.

Hmoob tsis paub tabsis Hmoob yeej muaj religion li luag lwm haiv neeg
thiab hov. Israel tus cawm seej yog Jesus tabsis Israel tsis hwm Jesus
ces Israel thiaj raug rau txim li niaj hnub no. Hmoob muaj Siv...
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Re: Lawb Dab or Teev Dab, Which is better?         


Author: Xejthim
Date: Oct 17, 2006 06:38

Yawm mojthem wrote:
> Raws li peb kev ntseeg Siv Yis, peb hais tias cov Hmoob coj dab yog cov
> ntseeg Ntxwg Nyoog. Peb ntseeg hais tias Tswv Ntuj muaj peb leej tub.
> Ntxwg Nyoog yog tus hlob. Nws kawm kev cai noj nyoos haus txias. Tus
> nrab yog Yes Xus. Nws kawm txog kev hlub - Love your neighbor as you
> love yourself. Siv Yis yog tus tub ntxawg. Nws kawm txog kev tsa kom
> neeg tuag ciaj rov qab los.

Yawm Moj awd....cas yuav txawj txua ua luaj li os. Thawj zaug kuv hnov
txog koj zaj dab neeg no ntag....sub es Ntxwg Nyoog thiab Siv Yis nkawd
yog Vajtswv tus tub hlob thiab tub ntxawg ntag lov? Yog muaj tias muaj
li koj hais ces ntseeg tus twg los kuj tau tag nro vim lawv peb tug no
puav leej yog Tswv Ntuj tub ne, ua li cas koj thiaj tias Siv Yis thiaj
li yog tus qoos tes xwb hos ob tug hlob ces tsis muaj quav dab tsi kiag
no mas. Yog muaj npaum li koj hais ko kuv xav yuav tsum muaj ntaub
ntawv teev tseg txog lawv peb kwv tij no lawm yog vim li cas txheej
neeg thaum ub hos tsis hais txog tus tub hlob thiab tus ntxawg es ho
hais txog tus nrab xwb? Ntshai lawv tsuas sau tseg tus muaj koob muaj
npe xwb poj, yog li ntawd ces tus hlob thiab tus ntxawg yuav mus qoos
xwm nab?
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