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Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: havzoov
Date: Feb 29, 2008 05:09

After all said and done, we will see that the Lao mongn in Thailand
will fall into three groups - some will be settle in Thailand, one
group will be resttled in thrid countries and the larger group will
have to return to Laos. So, it is inevitable that the bulk will have
to return to Loas.

And it is good to know that the Lao goverement have come accept that
these people in Heuy Nal Kha are indee Lao citizen and Laos gas agree
to accepth them back - thisis a positive step on the part of Loas as
being responsible to take care of her people.

The BIG concenr is the MANNER of the Laos's plan to receive these
returnees and HOW to reseetlle them. Judging nform the part experience
of the Hmongnrefugees who were repatriated in the 80's/90's of the Vue
Mai;s group at Ban Na Sa=Sart, south of Pakse and the Ban Phathoa
onorth of Vangvieng. More than a decade laret these two groups seem
to do reasonable well, even though there is still problem with

Thailandne must marvel the confidence of the LPDR Thanouxay that the
settlement of the illigal migrants from Thailand back to Laos but the
reality is that Laos is no island and Laos cannot and will not be able
to settle these porple who were fore to return to Laos here they do
not want to stay in the first place.

Any resettlement does not simple involve sending them to isolated
settlment location, being a best political strategy, and the LPDR hope
that the people will live there happily there after. This is not so.

What is needed is a well planned rehabilition program to intergrate
the new returnees - a program hat the LPDR does not has yet, the
current progrm is doom to fail. The hmong is only thrive and be happy
if they can live around their network of kin, clan members and family
support. Without the network of kin and family support, the current
LPDR program of remote settlement is doom to fail. Furthermore, the
hmong are now a global community and they have members living around
the four corners of the globe, and many people are ready to play their
right in their new host countries that have interet in Laos, so
WITHOUT the participatuon of their Hmong relatives who live onverseas,
the LPDR has alraedy fail to settle these returnees because those
returnees will listen more to ntheir overesae relatives than the LPDR.

Hence, the LPDR will have a honeymoon success to mresettle the new
returnees but it is only a mattre of time that these returnees will
began to cause more headache for the LPDR because the LPDR lack the
understanding of the dynamic of the hmong way of life and the LPDR
continue to hold the illusion that byt given ablock of land a bamboo
house and some hosuehold utensils to the retuenees then thoe people
will be happy and build their new lives in those remote villages. But
the bottomline is that the success of the settlement of those people
is depending on the genuine accaptance, love, respect and that the new
people MUST find fulfilment in life BY HAVING THEIR KINS AND FAMILIES
TO LIVE AROUND THEM TO GIVE THEM SOCIAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL AND PRACTICAL
SUPPORT IN TIME OF CRISIS, SICKNESS AND MORE IMPORATNTLY IN TIME OF
DEATH OF A MEMBER OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. Without these later
support, NO amount of money, material or gadgets wil be able to keeep
the Hmong in Laos. One just have to look at the settlement of the
failure of the Hmong settelement in the Usa IN THE 70' AND 80'S. The
Hmong community began to improve and become successful ONLY foloowing
the secondary migration of the Hmogn popuation to live closer to their
kins and clan members in California, Minesota, Wiaconcin and
elsewhere.

So, the arrogance of Thanouxay to sya that Lao can do it without the
third party involvemeny is a formula of failure and it is an idication
of total ingnorance on the part of the LPDR. Laos is no longer an
isolated country and NOTHING can happen in Laos in isolation. Any
change in the outside world can have a drastic effect in Laos, just as
thanouxay has personally mexperinece that any change in the US dollar
has an adversy drop in his business profit! So, any change in the
Hmong community in the US, Australor or France will automaticaplly
affect the Hmong in Laos and this cannot be prevented so by having the
arrogance that the LPDR can solve the Hmong problem in Laos without a
thurd party is an illusionary policy to fail even before it has began.

havzoov

On Feb 29, 9:53 pm, thanouxay hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,
> You like it or not, the wheel is moving and both countries will
> proceed with rapatriation of illegal migrants by sending back to their
> country of origin. This issue of illigal migrants lasted too long and
> it seems like the final stage is approaching and both countries agreed
> to settlement this issue in a better terms and conditions without any
> interference from third party.
>
> I just came out from the talks between the officials delegations of
> Lao PDR and the kingdom of Thailand led by the two Prime Ministers
> respectively.
>
> Both countries agreed that to settle the problem of Hmong illegal
> migrants, root cause has to be eradicated. And if there is no more
> opportunity to go to third countries, the root cause will just
> desapeared.
>
> Sok dee
>
> On Feb 29, 12:15 pm, miengxi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>> where are the world communities eyes and ears to keep all to account!
>> especially Thailand, being so close to the US congress hearing where
>> is the US teeth? the EU champion of human rights. Xieng is not denying
>> that repatriation is unavoidable but there must be check and
>> verification, on Laos side they keep saying they have nothing to hide
>> but their actions do not inspire trust that is the issue.
>
>> ແມງຈຸດຈີ່ wrote:
>>> On February 27, 2008, Thai Third Army attack dogs were reportedly
>>> ordered by Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej to maul a group of Hmong
>>> refugees prior to their forced repatriation back to the communist
>>> regime in Laos that they fled according to the Washington, DC-based
>>> Center for Public Policy Analysis and Lao Hmong human rights
>>> organizations.
>
>
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