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Author: vimhlub
Date: Aug 20, 2008 13:56

Ua tsaug rau koj cov lus qhia ua tsaug. Vim tsis paub thiaj li nug.
Xav nug koj seb cov lus nram no txhais li cas:

1. Yaig (xws li ua yaig/saib yaig)
2. Xab theeb (lwm hnub)
3. Cia rau koj ntos
4. Pwj tsiaj pwj txhu
5. Phum (muab phum mus)
6. Yeej koob yeej huam

Hnov hais lawm, tabsis paub tsis meej hais tias txhais li cas.
Leejtwg paub los thov muab txhais kom to taub.
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Aug 20, 2008 14:22

zoo li koj twb paub lawm ne...koj twb txhais ib txhia lawm ne...

yaig= a friend, or the "other half"...when people say "saib yaig" what
they really meant is to "ask" the other "half"...in this context it
means to ask the other "representative of the other world".

xab means 3...when people say "xab" it refers to 3..however, when they
say "xab" plus another word, it means anytime "after the 3rd"...such
as "xab nag kis" or "xab theeb lwm nub"...etc..

ntos....hmmm...lug moob leeg has le caag? not sure what the context
is...as in "ntos maj" lov??

pwj = the masculine version of animal...such as "laub qaib"..."txiv
nyuj" ..in this case, "pwj tsiag pwj txhua" means male animals...

kuv ho kuj tsi paub phum thiab....

yeej means to win...but in this case, yeej means the "creating (or
possessing) drive" that one posses, usually of good quality...yeej
koob yeej fuam is the "good (everlasting creation of goodness of the
self) name" that one posses.

yaweh
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Aug 20, 2008 14:25

ntos...

hahaha...i wasn't sure if "ntos" was written correctly or not. this
word is used as pajlug sau tshoob sau kos xwb...literally, it means to
"weave" as in ntus maj...but in wedding, when people say "ntos" they
are just using pajlus...such as "ntos" kom "koob mus nyog xov mus
taus"...

yaweh
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: vimhlub
Date: Aug 20, 2008 14:52

Yaweh,

Yog li ces:

1. if "ua yaig/saib yaig" means to "ask/look into the spirit world"
then, "npoj yaig" would translate "a friend from the spirit world"?

2. Xab means 3 or third, but what does theeb mean? Also, koj sim
qhia peb suav "first, second, third, fourth" ua lus Hmoob seb? Raws
li kuv hnov lawv hais me ntsis mas li no: Los tuam (first), los lwm
(second), los xab (third), los lwm (fourth)...tsis paub tshaj ntawd
lawm es koj puas paub?
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Aug 20, 2008 15:38

2 yawm,

Yog le hov ces lu lug "ntus/ntos" nuav huv nteeg tshoob ces txhais has
tas "ua/has" moog nua los mas, puas yog?

Ua tsaug,

ms
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Aug 20, 2008 15:56

vimhlub,

tsi yog thiab,....kuv twb tias yog the "other half" xwb no ne....in
the context of 'saib yaig" then it woudl be the friend of the other
half..

kuv mam muab re-arrange..and nej mam put together..

lwm, tuam, xim, puaj, vwg, luj, tshij, xab,

yaweh
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Aug 20, 2008 15:57

ms..yog los mas..

saum lub rooj, lawd twb tias "tseb noob" no...txhais tias "hais" no
xwb... in wedding (in reference to Knoob moog nyog, xov mus taus...")
lawd tias "ntus" no...which means to "say/speak/tell"

yaweh
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Aug 20, 2008 16:45

yawm Tsuj,

Ua le lu lug "Zwm" nuav nev, txhais tau le caag hab?

ua tsaug,

ms
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: zhen
Date: Aug 20, 2008 17:32

> 2. Xab means 3 or third, but what does theeb mean? Also, koj sim

theeb = tian = hnub, ntuj

nyob hauv lus suav, tian yog ib hnub (one day) OR lub ntuj (heavens).
xab theeb = peb hnub. xab theeb txhais tau tias, "ntau ntau hnub (tom
qab)".

hmoob cov lus muaj muaj khub xws li, "niam txiv", "kwv tij", "neej
tsa". muaj niam los muaj txiv. muaj kwv los muaj tij. muaj neej los
muaj tsa. muaj yaj ceeb los muaj yeej ceeb. muaj phooj los muaj ywg.
muaj niaj los muaj xyooj. etc... etc... etc.. vim li ntawv, lawv thiaj
li hais tias, hmoob yog cov tib neeg siv "tao" vim "tao" muaj qhov
duality. tej yam zoo li no, txawm muaj tseeb los tsis muaj tseeb,
hmoob khaws tseg cia nyob huav hmoob lub culture, no one can deny.

muaj ib zag dab neeg, nws hais tias, tus kav tag nrhov lub ntuj yog,
"theeb tsw". theeb = ntuj = tian AND tsw = tswv = zhu. so theeb tsw
yog tswv ntuj.
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Re: Kwv...Txhais lus Hmoob seb         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Aug 20, 2008 19:07

Thanks, Zhen.. that helps.

ms
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