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Is Dr. Pao Abandoning Ship?         


Author: teevlis
Date: Mar 9, 2008 08:49

Colleagues,

For years Dr. Pao was an obedient and cheering devotee to Neohoum and
its great leader, ready to sacrifice (I mean sacrifice other Hmong)
for whatever challenges ahead, be it war or mass suicide. Lately, a
mere mention of his affiliation to the latter somehow set the man all
electrified and aflame with denial and other unsavory recriminations.

I wonder if this sudden change of behavior was a simple manifestation
of a split-personality crisis, a "niam hlob niam yau" syndrome or a
more mysterious intrigue in the work.

In other words, is Dr. Pao Jumping ship? In that case, he might of
course wish to wash himself clean of the past. But I doubt a few
Houdini acts would do the trick. Yet, this is still more palatable
than sinking with the ship.
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Author: Twmzeej6
Date: Mar 9, 2008 11:08

On Mar 9, 10:49 am, teev...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Colleagues,

Teev,

Please don't overkill the dead horse. He (the great leader) is done.
Look at the bright side and smell the roses.

Give us some insights on Hmong World Congress and its litigation.

tz
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Re: Is Dr. Pao Abandoning Ship?         


Author: Thornspear
Date: Mar 9, 2008 12:17

Teev awd, koj tseem xuas tuam tshij npuj tsuas taag zug hab ces kuv
saib dr pao kawg tsa chij dlawb moog hunt nwg tug young croc lawm xwb
lauj, ua heev npaum ko rua dr pao lwm zag ntshai mej cov Moob Meliskas
caw yawg tuaj muab presentation dlaab tsi mas ntshai nwg yuav tsis
muaj ntsej muag tuaj fim mej ntxwv lawm os. Mej sim saib saib maj, zoo
le yaws tub txaaj txaaj qhov muag siv yawg lub npe dr pao nua tuaj huv
nuav lawm xwb tub moog looj najkaj tshab ua yawm havzoov lawm xwb
niv.

On Mar 9, 10:49 am, teev...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
> For years Dr. Pao was an obedient and cheering devotee to Neohoum and
> its great leader, ready to sacrifice (I mean sacrifice other Hmong...
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Re: Is Dr. Pao Abandoning Ship?         


Author: teevlis
Date: Mar 9, 2008 15:39

Twmze,

Honestly, I did feel a sense of overdo here after I had sent the post
out. But Dr. Pao is a big guy. He can handle it. Actually, I did not
intend the post for Dr. Pao specifically. I only piggy-backed on him
to reach out and tickle the other Dr. Pao-like brethren.

Hmong World Congress (HWC) ? I am not sure what has happened there
beyond the unsealed allegations that everybody has so far seen. This
scenario seems to describe a case of "wolf in sheep clothing".
Whatever it is, settling the dispute by the law is a good idea, unlike
the old time in Long Cheng where big shots bombed each other. The best
option for the principals is to settle out of court and soon. A court
fight is very expensive and damaging, considering that they are
supposed to be angel organizations.

It is just reprehensible that these hmong human rights advocacy
organizations are so crewed up. In the old archaic English, congress
also means "screw". Maybe, they have taken this meaning too seriously.
Instead of helping Hmong with human rights issues, they somehow have
only given Hmong bad name.
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Author: teevlis
Date: Mar 9, 2008 16:11

Thornsp,

I do encourage Dr. Pao to participate in SCH and take the stand that
he believes in. This is how we all learn to grow and become more
worldly. I hope that Dr. Pao does not shy away from SCH. This would be
a real loss to SCH. It would be a loss to me. I never treat any debate
in SCH as a win-lose discourse. It is always a pure exchange of
perspectives. I have taken lessons from you all as well.

I never thought that Dr. Pao would actually sue me. That would be
crazy. I thought it was a desperate strategy on his part to soften me
up a bit. I have known Dr. Pao in SCH since its inception in late
1996. Since he and I have had a few rounds on the various subjects,
but to a lesser extent.
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Author: Pao
Date: Mar 9, 2008 19:27

On Mar 10, 2:49 am, teev...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Colleagues,
>
> For years Dr. Pao was an obedient and cheering devotee to Neohoum and
> its great leader, ready to sacrifice (I mean sacrifice other Hmong)
> for whatever challenges ahead, be it war or mass suicide. Lately, a
> mere mention of his affiliation to the latter somehow set the man all
> electrified and aflame with denial and other unsavory recriminations.
>
> I wonder if this sudden change of behavior was a simple manifestation
> of a split-personality crisis, a "niam hlob niam yau" syndrome or a
> more mysterious intrigue in the work.
>
> In other words, is Dr. Pao Jumping ship? In that case, he might of
> course wish to wash himself clean of the past. But I doubt a few
> Houdini acts would do the trick. Yet, this is still more palatable
> than sinking with the ship.
>
> I feel sorry for those young men who had mistakenly thought that the
> great leader had enormous fortunes in his closet, and if they should ...
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Re: Is Dr. Pao Abandoning Ship?         


Author: kwvtij
Date: Mar 10, 2008 07:54

On Mar 9, 9:27 pm, Pao
>You make the allegations against me but YOU
> have NO evidence to support what you said.
> HAIS TSIS TAU CES YUAV SWB... that is exactly like YOU. You CAN NOT
> produce any evidence to support your allegation that I was in Neohome,
> that I was supporting violent groups.. BUT you are donating money to
> the VP defence fund!!! but I have not.
> Can YOU elaborate how I co-opted to work with violent groups? Which
> violent groups? How, when, what do I do? Yog kuv yog neeg phem, neeg
> nkaus li koj mas, kuv twb sue koj for defamation already, my friend!
> Tabsis yus yog Hmoob tibyam es ho hlub lub nyuiav qhov muag thiab.
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Author: Pao
Date: Mar 10, 2008 09:19

Teev yog tus liam ua nej.. to carry on chraracter assasination kub
ntag. Teev hais tau, Teev tsis muaj Pov-Thawj so far to support teev
tej kev liam. Lino ces yog tias Teev yog neeg NKaus tshaj plaws xwb.
lam tau lam liam. Ua ib tug neeg zoo, ib tus txiv neej yawg, new yeej
yuav cia lam tau lam hais. Nws hais tau nws yuav tsum noj tau. Yog nws
hais tau, nws noj tsis tsis tau ces aTeev yog neeg nkaug, neejg pheem,
neeg nriav plaub. Kuv nyob kuv zoo, tsis tua tuaj qhov txog teev, tsis
tau tuaj liam teev dabtsi, es es cav nyob nyob, Teev yuav taw nti-tev
liab vog rua kuv li? Luag tsis tau ua plaub rau teev tabsis, Teev mam
nkaug tsis nkaug, phem tsis phem, los nws teb yuav mus counter sue
lawm thib sis. Cov neeg ncaj puav yuav ua li no mad. Nej ho sim xav
saib, us li Teev no es pejkwm tenchaws...
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Author: phwvnyawm
Date: Mar 10, 2008 10:11

Txiv Ntxawm Teev thiab yawg laus Dr Pov.

Kuv thov neb tsum thiab lauj.......yus yog neeg sib txheeb es pheej
yuav mus sib cav,sib ceg rau lwm tus saib maj.......neb tsis yog tus
txheeb-b kiag los yus tej kwv tij twb yog tus txheeb-b ces txheeb lawm
los mas.

Txiv ntsawm Teev saib yawg laus Vwj Thoj yuav peb phauj Rwg Yaj puas
yog koj tus muam npaws xwb los mas?

Hos yawg laus Dr Pov yawg laus Vwj Thoj puas yog koj cov kwv tij
hmoob Thoj, neb tuaj nyob Autralia sib hlub npaum kwv tij niam txiv ib
plab yug? Neb cia li tsum kiag nawb............. Kuv ntseeg hais tias
neb tsis tau-au sib ntsib tiam sis neb yeej paub tias neb sib txheeb
lawm.

Ua tsaug,

Phwvnyawm
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Re: Is Dr. Pao Abandoning Ship?         


Author: vaajmoob
Date: Mar 10, 2008 10:32

phwv nim phwv, lleg twg has txua koj has tas pov phmd hab vwj thoj ob
tug yog kwvtij txheebx nua maj,vwj yog peb qhabnab dongdok hua pov yog
nploooj txawb ov,kuv ncu has tas thaum u es vwj,kuv,kwv tseemy hab peb
coobx leeb nyog dongdok,peb thaam moob/hmoob xwb ov,pov phmd yog dlhua
nwg ib paab lawm,
vmged
On Mar 10, 12:11 pm, phwvnyawm yahoo.com> wrote:
> Txiv Ntxawm Teev thiab yawg laus Dr Pov.
>
> Kuv thov neb tsum thiab lauj.......yus yog neeg sib txheeb es pheej
> yuav mus sib cav,sib ceg rau lwm tus saib maj.......neb tsis yog tus
> txheeb-b kiag los yus tej kwv tij twb yog tus txheeb-b ces txheeb lawm
> los mas.
>
> Txiv ntsawm Teev saib yawg laus Vwj Thoj yuav peb phauj Rwg Yaj puas
> yog koj tus muam npaws xwb los mas?
>
> Hos yawg laus Dr Pov yawg laus Vwj Thoj puas yog koj cov  kwv tij
> hmoob Thoj, neb tuaj nyob Autralia sib hlub npaum kwv tij niam txiv ib
> plab yug?  Neb cia li tsum kiag nawb............. Kuv ntseeg hais tias ...
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