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Author: Tzianeng VangTzianeng Vang Date: May 6, 2008 06:49
Thov tshaj ib lo nrog nruab huab nruab cua cab sab hauv cyber space no
rau peb sawv daws nrog nco khaws cia xwb. Ntawm peb Hmoob li lus ces
Hmoob Vaj & Vaj Hmoob (Vaaj Moob) tsis yog ib lo los yog sib thooj
thiab siv tsis tau ua ib lo lus hais. Hmoob Vaj yog peb Hmoob lub xeem
Vaj, vaj tse, vaj zaub los yog lub vaj loog. Vaj (Hmoob) yog tus Vaj
saib xyuas, tswj los yog tsom kwm peb tib neeg (Hmoob) li ntsuj plig
los yog noob neej; e.g. Hmoob tus Vajtswv, Vaj Ntxwv, vaj zaub los yog
vaj loog Hmoob etc...Yog li ib tug tib neeg twg nws tuaj yeem pom zoo
muab nws lub npe hu ua Vaj Hmoob (Vaaj Moob) los yog vaj (vaaj) Hmoob
(Moob) lawm los yeej tseem txhais tsis tau, tau tias nws yog xeem Vaj;
tiam sis ib tug Hmoob xeem Vaj hu tau nws tus kheej tias nws yog Vaj
(Vaaj) Hmoob (Moob)...
Tshaj rau peb nyeem laug caij laug nyoog...
-Txiabneeb
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Author: dokchampadokchampa Date: May 6, 2008 09:03
Txiab Neeb,
Koj qhov explanation tsis meej pem rau kuv. Tus Hmoob Vaj hu tau nws
tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no hos tus "Vaj Hmoob" tsis necessarily
yog Hmoob Vaj no los? Qhov no tsis meej pem. Hmoob cov lus mas los
adjective lawv los noun qab. Tus Hmoob Vaj mas yog ib tug Hmoob xeem
Vaj vim hais tias "vaj" yog los adj hos "Hmoob" yog los noun. Thaum
nws hu nws tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no lawm mas tsis yog refer rau
nws lub xeem lawm, yog refer rau nws txoj kev tswj hwm Hmoob thiab ua
tus loj ntawm haiv Hmoob lawm. "Vaj" [King] yog los noun, "Hmoob" yog
los adj.
Txawm ua li cas los zoo siab hais tias cov Hmoob Vaj kuj sawv tau GVP
los coj peb haiv neeg tau ib ntus li ib zaim muag hauv keeb kwm. Yeej
yuav tsum muaj li no thiab vim hais tias pheej cia luag lwm...
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Author: hmoobthawjhmoobthawj Date: May 6, 2008 09:10
On May 6, 11:03 am, dokcha...@ yahoo.com wrote: > Txiab Neeb,
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> Koj qhov explanation tsis meej pem rau kuv. Tus Hmoob Vaj hu tau nws
> tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no hos tus "Vaj Hmoob" tsis necessarily
> yog Hmoob Vaj no los? Qhov no tsis meej pem. Hmoob cov lus mas los
> adjective lawv los noun qab. Tus Hmoob Vaj mas yog ib tug Hmoob xeem
> Vaj vim hais tias "vaj" yog los adj hos "Hmoob" yog los noun. Thaum
> nws hu nws tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no lawm mas tsis yog refer rau
> nws lub xeem lawm, yog refer rau nws txoj kev tswj hwm Hmoob thiab ua
> tus loj ntawm haiv Hmoob lawm. "Vaj" [King] yog los noun, "Hmoob" yog
> los adj.
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> Txawm ua li cas los zoo siab hais tias cov Hmoob Vaj kuj sawv tau GVP
> los coj peb haiv neeg tau ib ntus li ib zaim muag hauv keeb kwm. Yeej
> yuav tsum muaj li no thiab vim hais tias pheej cia luag lwm xeem kav
> xwb ces luag lwm xeem nrog roj nrog ntshav rau Hmoob xwb. Xeem twg
> kav Hmoob, xeem ntawd tuag coob tshaj. Vim li cov Lis, Lauj, thiab
> cov Yaj thiaj li tau nrog roj nrog ntshav rau lub niag Teb chaws Los
> Tsuas Quav Dev ntawd los lawm ntev ntau lawm. Cov Hmoob Vwj thiab cov ...
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Author: dokchampadokchampa Date: May 6, 2008 09:24
Hmoob, koj hais yog kawg lawm. Ua tsaug ua koj tseem muaj lub siab
ntev los qhia peb cov hluas thiab.
On May 6, 11:10 am, hmoobth...@ yahoo.com wrote:
quoted text - > Neb ob leeg hais tsi yog tuabsi lawm os. Hmoob Vaaj cais peb xeem
> Vaaj kws ua thawj coj kaav taag nrho txhua xeem Hmoob thoob plawg lub
> nplajteb nuav. Vaj Hmoob cais yog peb txiv huabtais Vaj Pov uas ua
> txhua xeem Hmoob thoob plawg ntiajteb tus Vaj.
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> Peb xeem vaj yeej heev dua. Kawg peb txiv huabtais Vaj Pov tib leeg
> thiaj muaj peev xwm thiab ua tau xwb, yog li Hmoob thoob ntiajteb
> thiaj hwm thiab America los tseem hwm thiab. LUAG AMERICA THIAJ TUAJ
> CUAG LUAG PUAG XEES KHOOM KOM PAB aMERICA.- Hide quoted text -
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Author: tseejzootseejzoo Date: May 6, 2008 09:38
On May 6, 11:10 am, hmoobth...@ yahoo.com wrote: > On May 6, 11:03 am, dokcha...@ yahoo.com wrote:
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> >> Txiab Neeb,
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>> Koj qhov explanation tsis meej pem rau kuv. Tus Hmoob Vaj hu tau nws
>> tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no hos tus "Vaj Hmoob" tsis necessarily
>> yog Hmoob Vaj no los? Qhov no tsis meej pem. Hmoob cov lus mas los
>> adjective lawv los noun qab. Tus Hmoob Vaj mas yog ib tug Hmoob xeem
>> Vaj vim hais tias "vaj" yog los adj hos "Hmoob" yog los noun. Thaum
>> nws hu nws tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no lawm mas tsis yog refer rau
>> nws lub xeem lawm, yog refer rau nws txoj kev tswj hwm Hmoob thiab ua
>> tus loj ntawm haiv Hmoob lawm. "Vaj" [King] yog los noun, "Hmoob" yog
>> los adj.
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>> Txawm ua li cas los zoo siab hais tias cov Hmoob Vaj kuj sawv tau GVP ...
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Author: tseejzootseejzoo Date: May 6, 2008 09:44
On May 6, 11:03 am, dokcha...@ yahoo.com wrote: > Txiab Neeb,
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> Koj qhov explanation tsis meej pem rau kuv. Tus Hmoob Vaj hu tau nws
> tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no hos tus "Vaj Hmoob" tsis necessarily
> yog Hmoob Vaj no los? Qhov no tsis meej pem. Hmoob cov lus mas los
> adjective lawv los noun qab. Tus Hmoob Vaj mas yog ib tug Hmoob xeem
> Vaj vim hais tias "vaj" yog los adj hos "Hmoob" yog los noun. Thaum
> nws hu nws tus kheej hu ua "Vaj Hmoob" no lawm mas tsis yog refer rau
> nws lub xeem lawm, yog refer rau nws txoj kev tswj hwm Hmoob thiab ua
> tus loj ntawm haiv Hmoob lawm. "Vaj" [King] yog los noun, "Hmoob" yog
> los adj.
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> Txawm ua li cas los zoo siab hais tias cov Hmoob Vaj kuj sawv tau GVP
> los coj peb haiv neeg tau ib ntus li ib zaim muag hauv keeb kwm. Yeej
> yuav tsum muaj li no thiab vim hais tias pheej cia luag lwm xeem kav
> xwb ces luag lwm xeem nrog roj nrog ntshav rau Hmoob xwb. Xeem twg
> kav Hmoob, xeem ntawd tuag coob tshaj. Vim li cov Lis, Lauj, thiab
> cov Yaj thiaj li tau nrog roj nrog ntshav rau lub niag Teb chaws Los
> Tsuas Quav Dev ntawd los lawm ntev ntau lawm. Cov Hmoob Vwj thiab cov ...
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Author: Tzianeng VangTzianeng Vang Date: May 6, 2008 10:06
tseej,
zoo siab muaj ib tug phooj ywg AS KAJ li koj paub txog kuv
thiab...tsis yog Mim xwb koj twb pab thiab ne...twb pab npaum li los
tseem fail esl li kuv hais rau zhen lawm thiab.
qhov tias "quav tsw tog twg tuaj kuv tsis paub" mas yog kawg li lawm
nawb (you're right on!); yuav ua cas paub mas phooj ywg tseej? muaj
quav ntau dhau hwv lawm leej twg los yeej hniav tsis tau tus ntxhiab
taug tsis tau tus lw li nawb...
ua koj tsuag (this is not a misspelled word) os mog...
On May 6, 11:44 am, tseej...@ yahoo.com wrote: > On May 6, 11:03 am, dokcha...@ yahoo.com wrote:
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> >> Txiab Neeb,
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>> Koj qhov explanation tsis meej pem rau kuv. Tus Hmoob Vaj hu tau nws
>> tus...
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Author: TswvYimTswvYim Date: May 6, 2008 10:03
txiabneeb, tsis yog hmoob vaj, lub xeem yog vaj ncuab. hmoob twb tsis muaj
vaj lawm es tsis tas siv los lus vaj hmoob lawm puas taus?
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Author: vaajmoobvaajmoob Date: May 6, 2008 11:19
tzabneeb es, yug tub yog tug qha ntawv moob es ua caag has lug tom
ntej tom qaab le kom naj, koj yuav ntau moog saib tug nyuag lwv moob
thoj ua theorapist tom koj nawb, muab koj hu ua tzab nua koj puag ua
ob ceg le tsaab txab maj, los yog koj puag paub ua neeb, tsi has le
og, vaajmoob ces yog moob tug vaaj naj,
vmged
On May 6, 8:49 am, Tzianeng Vang gmail.com> wrote:> Thov tshaj ib lo nrog nruab huab nruab cua cab sab hauv cyber space no
> rau peb sawv daws nrog nco khaws cia xwb. Ntawm peb Hmoob li lus ces
> Hmoob Vaj & Vaj Hmoob (Vaaj Moob) tsis yog ib lo los yog sib thooj
> thiab siv tsis tau ua ib lo lus hais. Hmoob Vaj yog peb Hmoob lub xeem
> Vaj, vaj tse, vaj zaub los yog lub vaj loog. Vaj (Hmoob) yog tus Vaj
> saib xyuas, tswj los yog tsom kwm peb tib neeg (Hmoob) li ntsuj plig
> los yog noob neej; e.g. Hmoob tus Vajtswv, Vaj Ntxwv, vaj zaub los yog
> vaj loog Hmoob etc...Yog li ib tug tib neeg twg nws tuaj yeem pom zoo
> muab nws lub npe hu ua Vaj Hmoob (Vaaj Moob) los yog vaj (vaaj) Hmoob
> (Moob) lawm los yeej tseem txhais tsis tau, tau tias nws yog xeem Vaj;
> tiam sis ib tug Hmoob xeem Vaj hu tau nws tus kheej tias nws yog Vaj
> (Vaaj) Hmoob (Moob)...
> ...
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Author: PobntoolausPobntoolaus Date: May 6, 2008 17:50
Tzianeng,
So you are suggesting that peb txiv huab tais vp is not a Vang, right?
Yog tias muaj tseeb li koj hais no ces txiv huab tais vp kuj tsis
qualify los ua peb kwv peb tij lawm thaib los poj. Tsum kiag tsam peb
qhaj naj pobntooslaus no tsis txaus siab nawb.
On May 6, 8:49 am, Tzianeng Vang gmail.com> wrote:> Thov tshaj ib lo nrog nruab huab nruab cua cab sab hauv cyber space no
> rau peb sawv daws nrog nco khaws cia xwb. Ntawm peb Hmoob li lus...
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