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Hmoob Mojthem xuvtooj cua         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Aug 12, 2008 19:33

Kuv moog noog Ywjpheej Xyooj cov lug nwg has nub tim 11 lub 8 hli,
2008 nuav xaam pum tas nwg kuj has tau raug sab huam lawm hab. Mej ho
xaav le caag txug Ywjpheej cov lug nuav?

www.mojthem.com

ms
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Re: Hmoob Mojthem xuvtooj cua         


Author: yoojyim
Date: Aug 12, 2008 23:11

On Aug 12, 7:33 pm, Moobsib gmail.com> wrote:
> Kuv moog noog Ywjpheej Xyooj cov lug nwg has nub tim 11 lub 8 hli,
> 2008 nuav xaam pum tas nwg kuj has tau raug sab huam lawm hab. Mej ho
> xaav le caag txug Ywjpheej cov lug nuav?
>
> www.mojthem.com
>
> ms

Hmmm....Kuv agree rua ntau yaam kws thaub Ywjpheej has hab las mas.
But I am not sure about his idea on how we as hmong could become a
nation(muaj teb muaj chaw, ciajhaiv) we have to win with the barrel of
guns. He claimed we must change the way we think/believe in the past.
But guns are still in his mind. We fought the chinks with guns. We
fought the laodeng/viet with guns but to no avail. I remember Yang Dao
has said we have to win with the pens. Maybe that's what we have to
follow, not guns.

Yim
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Re: Hmoob Mojthem xuvtooj cua         


Author: mei.guo333
Date: Aug 12, 2008 23:16

ms,

nws hais raug siab es hais raug li cas maj? thov qhia seb yom? xob
ploj li hnub i es cia li tso kuv pluav txog john tucker nawb mog.

cov no yog cov ywj pheej xyooj hais/thuam (criticize) hmoob es yuam
kev.

1. nws hais tias "huab tais" vwj paj yias lawv cov phom zoo dua suav
cov, tiam si, vim li cas hmoob ho swb rog? vim hais tias "hmoob tsis
muaj nom muaj tswv." does this make sense to you? yog hmoob tsis muaj
nom muaj tswv es nws twb hais tias vwj paj yais yog "huab tais" ne?
txawv dhau hwv lawm.

2. nws thuam tias hmoob tsis xav hloov los pauv hmoob tej txuj ci.
qhov no nws xav cav li cas los tau tas. tiam si, kom nws xob ua heev
heev cem hmoob kom ti ntsa xwb ces zoo mloog lawm. he already said
this is good + bad, but then goes on to say it is so bad this and
that, which is strange. i wonder what goes into the preparation for
his shows; zoo lawv cia li lam tau lam hais tsuav hais kom haum siab
xwb ces tag li ntawv..... i unno.
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Author: mei.guo333
Date: Aug 12, 2008 23:26

> fought the laodeng/viet with guns but to no avail. I remember Yang Dao
> has said we have to win with the pens. Maybe that's what we have to

hais li ywj pheej hais mas ruam dhau hwv lawm. nws cia li hais kiag
hauv xov tooj cuav + tso kiag rau viv-xaij li no mas yog FCC + FBI
hnov + paub mas quav piav sia sia li txiv hlob vaj pov lawv nawb. peb
tej me Ph.D. candidate li ywj pheej no es ua li cas ho tsis hais li
yang dao hais kom (txawm yog dag xwb los) zoo mloog dua?

truth be told, wars are won with guns, but peace is won with pens. it
takes both. you need something more fundamental to fight for than "ib
daim av" or "ib lub teb chaws" like ywj pheej said.
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Author: Moobsib
Date: Aug 13, 2008 06:37

Nyob zoo Zhen,

Ua caag txawm siv txa ntshis ua mei.guo... lawm hab ne... Oh!... nub u
kuv teb ib qho message es tau has txug John Tucker qhov comment tawm
sis vim kuv moog nrug puab ua mauvim lawm es txhaj tsi ncu qaab sov
yog nyob rua lub haulug twg lawm. Ua le es koj tub muab kuv tug ntsuj
ntsa tim phaab ntsaa tog lawm lov?

Tub yog kuv xaav nov koj le reaction es txhaj lom txwm rau w/sua rua
koj los mas. Koj yeej muaj lug thuam txaus lawm tawm sis ua caag koj
ho tsi offer solution pub rua Ywj Pheej le maj? Tub yog yug tsob nyuas
Hmoob xwb es caj-tuag los yeej kawg yog yug sis tuav teg ntaa, qaab/
tsuag los kawg yog yug sis txug noj xwb los sav ua caag yuav thuam/
tshaum cuag yeeb ncuab le maj?

MS
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Author: mei.guo333
Date: Aug 13, 2008 07:46

ab, niag MS ntawv os. twb yog kuv tuaj pom vaajmoob es ntshai ntshai
thiaj txia xwb los hos. koj mas, tam tseeb lauj. ntawm koj niag ntsuj
ces, kuv nem yuav hiav tau li os; kuv tej lus yog tua ncaj koj ces
ntses xus yeej tshuab cua kom qaij nab.

hais txog ntawm ywj pheej xyooj + moj them + dawbliaj lawv ces, lawv
yeej tsis yuav yuav leej twg hais li nawb. lawv yeej "ntseeg" tias
lawv nyob nrog qhov yog lawm ces, koj txawm yuav pab txuas pab kho los
nkim koj lub zog xwb. ntshe yog koj twb ho xav li lawv xav thiab no
pos, mas lawv mam li tos txais koj nab. kuv mloog lawv tej lus xwb
ces, qhov kuv xav xwb, lawv tej 5 xwm no yeej yuav ua rau lawv thiab
cov ntseeg + xav li lawv mus rau qhov yuam kev. koj puas hnov ywj
pheej hais tias yog xav tsim teb chaws no tau siv rab me phom naj? yog
koj hnov lawm no ces, xob lam mus theem lawv ib me pliag nrov pig pag
pig pag ces ho tau nrog tswv xyas mus lawm thiab os mog.
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Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Aug 13, 2008 08:25

MNZ,

yog le koj haas lawm hab tag, vim zoo le lawv tseem khav zog lawm--es
haas tau cov nam lug tuaj ntshawv miv miv lawm...thaum kuv tuaj saib
mej lub july 4th tag lug nuav. Mojthej Radio, ua Yuepheej lawv twb
tuaj ua kawg fund raising rau ntawm mhoob lub tajlaj tshavpuam--kuv
twb xav haas le koj haas no rua puab, tabsi vim nyob tim ntsej tim
muag lawm es saib lawv li qhovmuag es tsi khuv haas xwb. ces kuv pab
miv miv quavnaim nyaj pub rua puab xwb.

hmmmmm...mei..guo...es koj nam yog guo tag tag le lod..

koj tus me TNB
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Author: zajlaug
Date: Aug 13, 2008 09:30

Well! Mei.Guo made very good point.
Here is my comment to all readers:
Off course no matter where we at, there always 3 groups among us (the
leftistism, the rightism and the central)
no wonder how somes was push out from China (long ago) and current
trouble issue is now the hmong refugee in thailand.
Txawm peb muaj kev txawj kev ntse nyob lub tebchaws vammeej li mekas
no lawm los peb tseem muaj lub siab
xav tau ib lub teb lub chaw lo ua peb lub. Txoj kev xav li no yuav ua
rau lawv puas tsuaj mus, tsis hais cov nyob teb chaw no los yog lwm
tebchaws. Txoj kev hais li ywjpheej hais no especially yog muaj hmoob
nplog mloog es qaug quav thiab sib sau ua li ywjpheej hais no mas yuav
dangerous thiab yuav raug nplog liab eliminate tag.
Kom peb xav zoo zoo tias yus nyob lub teb chaws twg yuav tsum ua lub
tebchaws ntawm neeg, tsim kev zoo, kev txawj kev ntse, kev muaj noj
muaj haus, politic, lag luam etc... rau lub zej lub zos ntawm yus nyob
los yog rau lub tebchaws thiab cov neeg ua yus nyob ntawm. Cov neeg
muaj lub tswvyim khwv tawm tsam yog cov ua yuav raug phiam sij xwb.
kom nej xav li no, tsis hais hmoob nyob qhov twg, peb yuav tsum
sibtxawb kom muaj kev kawm ntawb kawm ntawv siab, muaj laj muaj kam ...
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Author: dawbliaj
Date: Aug 13, 2008 12:58

On Aug 13, 11:30 am, zajl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well!  Mei.Guo made very good point.
> Here is my comment to all readers:
> Off course no matter where we at, there always 3 groups among us (the
> leftistism, the rightism and the central)
> no wonder how somes was push out from China (long ago) and current
> trouble issue is now the hmong refugee in thailand.
> Txawm peb muaj kev txawj kev ntse nyob lub tebchaws vammeej li mekas
> no lawm los peb tseem muaj lub siab
> xav tau ib lub teb lub chaw lo ua peb lub. Txoj kev xav li no yuav ua
> rau lawv puas tsuaj mus, tsis hais cov nyob teb chaw no los yog lwm
> tebchaws.  Txoj kev hais li ywjpheej hais no especially yog muaj hmoob
> nplog mloog es qaug quav thiab sib sau ua li ywjpheej hais no mas yuav
> dangerous thiab yuav raug nplog liab eliminate tag.
> Kom peb xav zoo zoo tias yus nyob lub teb chaws twg yuav tsum ua lub
> tebchaws ntawm neeg, tsim kev zoo, kev txawj kev ntse, kev muaj noj
> muaj haus, politic, lag luam etc... rau lub zej lub zos ntawm yus nyob
> los yog rau lub tebchaws thiab cov neeg ua yus nyob ntawm. Cov neeg
> muaj lub tswvyim khwv tawm tsam yog cov ua yuav raug phiam sij xwb.
> kom nej xav li no, tsis hais hmoob nyob qhov twg, peb yuav tsum ...
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Re: Hmoob Mojthem xuvtooj cua         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Aug 13, 2008 13:49

Mei.guo...

Hahahahahaha..... puas muaj npaud maj?

Ua caag koj yuav has le naj? Kuv tub tsi ncu pum los sis nov puab tsi
yuav leej twg has los sav. Ntxiv ntawd, mej cov hluas kws muaj zoo
tswvyim hab pum kev dleb yuav tau ua lub sab ntev qheb Hmoob tej qhov
muag maj. Yog luas tsi has los sis ua le yug sab nyam ces txawm yuav
muab luas tshwj hlo tseg mas peb Hmoob yuav ceeb tis laaj txoos tau ua
ib pawg nawb...., kuv xaav naj.

Ua tsaug os. Kuv yeej xyum thum lawm hab. Kev caav pem ces yeej yog le
meb has mas. Yuav tau caav muaj yeej muaj swb mas txhaj ua rua lub
audience pum qhov result tseeb/meej. Txawm yog peb leej puav ho ntau
tau lub sab yau zog es tau cheem mej los yeej tsi lig hlo le os. Tsuav
yog txawj tseg lub qhov rooj tom qaab rua yug cov nyuas qab/qaib
cuasluam lug nkaag tau rua huv cooj thaus tsaus ntuj xwb ces yeej zoo
lawm.

MS
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