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Author: beemouachaofabeemouachaofa Date: Jul 21, 2008 08:36
This weekend I went to a 65 years young Hmoob funeral service in
Florida. The atmosphere was an Americanize funeral activity hosted by
Central Florida Alliance church.
1. Saturday open from 9:am-5:00pm
2. Open from 9:00am-1:00pm
3. Monday from 8:00am-10:00am.
The time and activity was very short. Many people may disagree with
it, but personally I thought it was exceptional for others to follow.
Because it saved times, moneys, and modernize.
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Author: tsujsuadluagtsujsuadluag Date: Jul 21, 2008 08:52
Bee,
It may have been a funeral...but it wasn't a hmong funeral. However,
I personally feel that it may be a good example to follow.
Yaweh
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Author: All4OneAll4One Date: Jul 21, 2008 13:00
tell me, what is a "Hmong funeral" suppose to consist of? To me, the
case above is as much Hmong as any other Hmong funerals....the
differences is it's a "MODERNIZED or MODIFIED" Hmong funeral. Nothing
wrong with that!
Bee,
can you details further as to what was done at this funeral? It may be
something that some younger generation of hmong-american are looking
to learn. thank you!
jim
On Jul 21, 10:52 am, tsujsuadl...@ hotmail.com wrote:
> Bee,
>
> It may have been a funeral...but it wasn't a hmong funeral. However,
> I personally feel that it may be a good example to follow.
>
> Yaweh
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Author: tsujsuadluagtsujsuadluag Date: Jul 21, 2008 13:10
first of all, tell me what a moderize mong funeral is...then i'll tell
you why it is not a hmong funeral
yaweh
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Author: All4OneAll4One Date: Jul 21, 2008 13:45
let's ask you again....what constitutes a Hmong funeral? And why do
you feel a "modfied" funeral is not a hmong funeral?
jim
On Jul 21, 3:10 pm, tsujsuadl...@ hotmail.com wrote:
> first of all, tell me what a moderize mong funeral is...then i'll tell
> you why it is not a hmong funeral
>
> yaweh
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Author: tsujsuadluagtsujsuadluag Date: Jul 21, 2008 20:15
allforone..
i guess you jsut answered my question
yaweh
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Author: PaoPao Date: Jul 22, 2008 00:49
What constitute a Hmong funeral?
Here is my lay man understanding....
Over the weekend, we had an elder man in Melbourne passes away and the
family has the funeral from Saturday morning to Monday afternoon.
In Oz, during such gathering, there are Hmong from all over Oz to
attend the funeral, even some live in very far away... coz... the Oz
Hmong still feel the need to come together during this such tragic
situation.
As in any funeral, some people are doing their funeral duties, others
paly cars, whi;le some people like myself and many others just sit
around and chat - about any thing. During such chatting, with many
elders and many people from all over the country, one question pop
up: What constitute a Hmong funeral? What we can do - ie to modify
the funeral so it is still a Hmong funeral?
According to some elders who are practitioner in quab kev, kavxwm,
txiv qeej, hais xim ect... after much debate over many hours over the
weekend, let me sum up what every one has come to aaccept in principle
as what can be done to maintain as a Hmong funeral.
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Author: TonyTony Date: Jul 22, 2008 03:07
Hahaha! bee was talking about the christian funeral to fit to the new
life spiritually as well as the new life in america.
It sounds to me that the tradition over took it and make it the only
true hmong funeral.
Time and money are the key, but assimulation is also play a role. We
like the "saving face" therefore, whatever method that approves by the
general public within and without of our community is the way to go.
Time has changed and the way a funeral should be is:
1 make the funeral as a memory of life as it comes to a closure.
2 a reflection of the survivers where life had taken them and where
they will go next
3 to move on with gladness and leave a memorable lagacy for many years
to come.
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Author: Born2beHmongBorn2beHmong Date: Jul 22, 2008 07:49
There are only 3 most memorable events in life, while you were born,
marriage, and death. And Tony to substitute Christian funeral as
Hmong funeral is by far out of context, because it is not according to
its cultural and traditional ritual practice. Does it constitute Hmong
funeral? We can phrase, as it does constitute Hmong Christian Funeral
because its ritual and practice are by far difference.
BeeMouaChaofa is an unawareness person, and he would say whatever
comes into mind. Lest forgive and forget him…LOL!
Born
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Author: xtou55xtou55 Date: Jul 22, 2008 11:26
On Jul 22, 10:49 am, Born2beHmong yahoo.com> wrote:
> There are only 3 most memorable events in life, while you were born,
> marriage, and death. And Tony to substitute Christian funeral as
> Hmong funeral is by far out of context, because it is not according to
> its cultural and traditional ritual practice. Does it constitute Hmong
> funeral? We can phrase, as it does constitute Hmong Christian Funeral
> because its ritual and practice are by far difference.
>
> BeeMouaChaofa is an unawareness person, and he would say whatever
> comes into mind. Lest forgive and forget him…LOL!
>
> Born
Folks, funeral are personal, private and cultural, what are you
talking about?
You can modify if was your funeral.
I think we all are just falling a part betw traditional and christian
of today.
As the world change we all must respect and move on what ever come and
go.
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