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Re: Hmong refugees may face dead end on 1/25/08.         

Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Jan 11, 2008 19:28

On Jan 11, 8:30 pm, xoblaimpl...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Jan 10, 3:54 pm, Born2beHmong yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> On Jan 10, 11:26 am, xoblaimpl...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>> On Jan 9, 10:49 pm, Born2beHmong yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Jan 9, 8:30 pm, listhoj1...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>>>> On Jan 9, 2:45 pm, All4One yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Maybe it's about time these people help themesleves instead of waiting
>>>>>> for UN and others to show sympathy. Obviously, Hmong American can't do
>>>>>> shit...lots of money making for themsleves though, but no solution.  I
>>>>>> mean...when all else have been exhausted...one MUST demand..."Give me
>>>>>> FREEDOM or give me DEATH".  Either way...you're going to die so why
>>>>>> not die in honor as oppose to be handed to your enemy and get
>>>>>> slaugther like cattles?
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>>>>>> The world will watch....we will watch, we will remember, we will not
>>>>>> forget who our enemies are.......
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>>>>>> jim
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>>>>>> On Jan 9, 1:58 pm, fajkhaum yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> It has been speculated that the the Royal Thai Government will  force
>>>>>>> repatriate the Hmong refugees in Ban Huai Mae Nam Khao back to Laos
>>>>>>> beginning January 25, 2008. The rumor has reached many Hmongs families
>>>>>>> in the U.S and around the world. According to the rumor, if the Thai
>>>>>>> force repatriate the Hmongs in Ban Huai Mae Nam Khao back to Laos,
>>>>>>> many Hmongs will violently fight to their dead. We don't know whose
>>>>>>> idea is this. But  it sound very scary.  Hopefully no one got kicked
>>>>>>> or no injury to any one.
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>>>>> Jim,
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>>>>> Very well said. We are all going to die so die in away that benefits
>>>>> the Hmong.  One of the scare thing from the LPDR is that, they lie so
>>>>> much. Lie from killing our leaders Pranga Toubee to Vue, Mai. Raping
>>>>> our tennage girls to our elders. Is this enough proof that LPDR
>>>>> murdered Hmong People. Toubee was helping the LPDR from 75-78 but LPDR
>>>>> murdered him. Vue,  Mai was agreed to return with LPDR, Thailand, &
>>>>> UNCHR. But he was murdered by LPDR.
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>>>>> All these proof that LPDR murdered Hmong people. What king people are
>>>>> you?. When your Hmong Leaders were murdered, innocent Hmong girls to
>>>>> innocent Hmong Elders were being murdered. Is this eought proof?. The
>>>>> only way to work with the LPDR is to fight.  All means of pearfull
>>>>> solutions were used up.
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>>>> i would agree with Jim and Freedom II, perhaps these people would not
>>>> be butcher but their lives would never be classified as Lao citizens.
>>>> generation from now, their children won't get a chance to have a full
>>>> potential on education because my uncle that he used to live in the
>>>> side of FGVP and had moved to Xiengkhoung since 1975.  his children
>>>> won't get a chance to further their education after certain grade,
>>>> because the system asks for your great great parents and what had they
>>>> been doing in the past 30 years.  this led to the seperation between
>>>> the 30 years of LPDR and the bad side of its enemy.  these children
>>>> would slip further away from the majority of its well citizens in
>>>> laos, as who would have the primary to any good things that come out.
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>>>> the bad side of LPDR is that they ask for your parents and grand
>>>> parents's participation of the war before they give you the
>>>> opportunity--and these would derail the many of its citizens and the
>>>> poor people.
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>>> LOL@ B2Bhmong,
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>>> Zhen = tus me neeg precious in Chinese, cas koj pheej tsis qhia koj
>>> lub maib tais rau Born2beHmong kom nws txawj ntse yoog raws koj qab
>>> lau. Charlie neb ob tug xf khib kai no tsis cob qhia yawg Born2beHmong
>>> no ces ntshe nws yuav hais lus ua rau nej pawg ntseeg huaj laim thiab
>>> yuav ua rau koj, charlie, thiab sibtham nej poob ntsej muag ib hnub
>>> xwb thiaj tas.
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>>> Mr. James Born2beHmong, your comment that those children of the Hmong
>>> returnees from Thailand would never be classified as Lao citizens is
>>> totally preposterous. Plus your prediction the future of the returned
>>> Hmong children and/or offspring of those former arms of VP in Laos
>>> that they "won't get a chance to have a full potential on education"
>>> is completely bogus due to your own ill-minded and dirty-hearted. How
>>> do you conclude that these Hmong children would not have access to
>>> education in Laos? Please provide us your factual data on this account
>>> of discrimination against Hmong children whom parent were soldiers of
>>> VP or those returned from Thailand since 1975. You must be blinded or
>>> sleep talking. For your information, there are many Hmong children who
>>> parents were soldiers during the Vientnam War including those returned
>>> from Thailand and those came out of the jungle are actually become
>>> police officers, teachers, doctors, engineers, and some even become
>>> foreign embassy assistance counselors.
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>>> For your fake uncle's case, his children probably dumb like him
>>> (believe that VP will return to Long Cheng) or for a better scenario
>>> your uncle is too poor to send his children for a higher ed. Shame on
>>> him and you! You should have sent some monies to help your uncle send
>>> his children to college in Vientiane. No hard feeling, not only you
>>> but all Neohom people including Mr. Lee Pao Xiong, in 2003, he voiced
>>> to have a boycott Hmong Americans for traveling to Laos and sending
>>> monies to their relatives in Laos (http://groups.google.com/group/
>>> soc.culture.hmong/browse_frm/thread/2da7d708e085ffe5/25f2b8e124df33c9?
>>> lnk=gst&q=lee+pao+xiong+and+boycott#25f2b8e124df33c9).
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>>> Mr. James Born your ill speaking here will do more harm to the Hmong
>>> in Laos than good. You can hate the Lao Government as much as you want
>>> but you can't look down or hate your own Hmong people who happen to
>>> live in Laos. Let's put aside your political seeking dream in Laos and
>>> join hands together to educate and promote our Hmong people in Laos to
>>> live in peace and harmony from now on.
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>>> Your different opinion is always welcome.
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>> smile@Xoblaim...
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>> i must hit a land mine..............vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvooollllla!  i had
>> my sources and my uncle is in the states now. my uncle was a very well
>> educated Mhong men back in the FGVP era. Perhaps, you had not lived in
>> Laos to understaand the historical questions that they asked--starting
>> from you, your paretns, and your grand parents, to see where you fit
>> in.  nowadays, i have cousin who used to live with LPDR during the war
>> (with a well-known parents)--but the corruption of the leaders made
>> him responsible for their actions, while they cannot find any against
>> him. the system released him free, but he is no longer giving the
>> opportunity for a well pay job as he used to have.
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>> the education potential does have an affect upon these WW Mhong
>> children if they would to be returning back to Laos because of the
>> root your from make a difference as who you are when you are running
>> for office or getting a higher education.
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>> these are true statements from the source that i had....enough
>> explained because you knew nothing about LPDR and their brains.
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>> smiles....
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> 555555@Born,
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> Zhen, again if you don't teach your Chinese Kungfu skills to Mr. Born,
> he will ruin the reputation of your root.
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> Mr. Born, your uncle was a very well educated Hmong man in the VP era.
> Why don't you tell us which Ivy League university your uncle graduated
> from at that time? If your uncle was too well educated, how come your
> and his superior VP ruled the Hmong, especially in Long Cheng, with
> the tip of their guns for nearly 15 years? Based on our history, there
> was none very well educated Hmong man or men prior to or during the
> Vietnam War. In fact, DYD was only very well educated Hmong man who
> graduated from France 2 or 3 years before 1975. Are you telling us
> that your uncle is DYD?
>
> Talking about corruption! Why don't you ask your uncle a historical
> question about corruption?  I bet your very well educated uncle will
> answer you that there was no corruption existed during the VP era
> because he is too well educated so he could not tell what is a
> corruption, which in his mind vp never corrupted his soldiers'
> salaries. Now you are a very well educated Hmong man like your uncle
> too, so you say the corruption done by your uncle, VP, and the old
> Royal Lao Government is OK but the corruption conducted by the current
> regime Lao Government is not OK. Like they say, an apple won't fall
> far from its tree.
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> Of course, there will be a big affect on the Hmong children who return
> from Thailand because of their brains have been washed by people like
> your kind so they will never accept or obey the rules of laws in Laos.
> They will keep dreaming to overthrow their own government. Your kind
> of people will keep telling them not to take part of the potential
> education in Laos. And your kind of people will keep pushing them to
> make troubles like 32 year ago.
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> You are right, I don't know anything about LPDR and their brains but I
> grew up in Laos half of my life.- Hide quoted text -
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LOL....you may be grew up in Laos but you were never lived under the
LPDR's decree...and i don't think that by reviewing my uncle identity
would solve a problem here....

smile@Zhen...stop changing nickname..

Born2beMhong
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