On Jan 10, 3:54 pm, Born2beHmong
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>> On Jan 9, 10:49 pm, Born2beHmong
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>>> On Jan 9, 8:30 pm, listhoj1...@
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>>>> On Jan 9, 2:45 pm, All4One
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>>>>> Maybe it's about time these people help themesleves instead of waiting
>>>>> for UN and others to show sympathy. Obviously, Hmong American can't do
>>>>> shit...lots of money making for themsleves though, but no solution. I
>>>>> mean...when all else have been exhausted...one MUST demand..."Give me
>>>>> FREEDOM or give me DEATH". Either way...you're going to die so why
>>>>> not die in honor as oppose to be handed to your enemy and get
>>>>> slaugther like cattles?
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>>>>> The world will watch....we will watch, we will remember, we will not
>>>>> forget who our enemies are.......
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>>>>> jim
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>>>>> On Jan 9, 1:58 pm, fajkhaum
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>>>>>> It has been speculated that the the Royal Thai Government will force
>>>>>> repatriate the Hmong refugees in Ban Huai Mae Nam Khao back to Laos
>>>>>> beginning January 25, 2008. The rumor has reached many Hmongs families
>>>>>> in the U.S and around the world. According to the rumor, if the Thai
>>>>>> force repatriate the Hmongs in Ban Huai Mae Nam Khao back to Laos,
>>>>>> many Hmongs will violently fight to their dead. We don't know whose
>>>>>> idea is this. But it sound very scary. Hopefully no one got kicked
>>>>>> or no injury to any one.
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>>>> Jim,
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>>>> Very well said. We are all going to die so die in away that benefits
>>>> the Hmong. One of the scare thing from the LPDR is that, they lie so
>>>> much. Lie from killing our leaders Pranga Toubee to Vue, Mai. Raping
>>>> our tennage girls to our elders. Is this enough proof that LPDR
>>>> murdered Hmong People. Toubee was helping the LPDR from 75-78 but LPDR
>>>> murdered him. Vue, Mai was agreed to return with LPDR, Thailand, &
>>>> UNCHR. But he was murdered by LPDR.
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>>>> All these proof that LPDR murdered Hmong people. What king people are
>>>> you?. When your Hmong Leaders were murdered, innocent Hmong girls to
>>>> innocent Hmong Elders were being murdered. Is this eought proof?. The
>>>> only way to work with the LPDR is to fight. All means of pearfull
>>>> solutions were used up.
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>>> i would agree with Jim and Freedom II, perhaps these people would not
>>> be butcher but their lives would never be classified as Lao citizens.
>>> generation from now, their children won't get a chance to have a full
>>> potential on education because my uncle that he used to live in the
>>> side of FGVP and had moved to Xiengkhoung since 1975. his children
>>> won't get a chance to further their education after certain grade,
>>> because the system asks for your great great parents and what had they
>>> been doing in the past 30 years. this led to the seperation between
>>> the 30 years of LPDR and the bad side of its enemy. these children
>>> would slip further away from the majority of its well citizens in
>>> laos, as who would have the primary to any good things that come out.
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>>> the bad side of LPDR is that they ask for your parents and grand
>>> parents's participation of the war before they give you the
>>> opportunity--and these would derail the many of its citizens and the
>>> poor people.
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>> LOL@ B2Bhmong,
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>> Zhen = tus me neeg precious in Chinese, cas koj pheej tsis qhia koj
>> lub maib tais rau Born2beHmong kom nws txawj ntse yoog raws koj qab
>> lau. Charlie neb ob tug xf khib kai no tsis cob qhia yawg Born2beHmong
>> no ces ntshe nws yuav hais lus ua rau nej pawg ntseeg huaj laim thiab
>> yuav ua rau koj, charlie, thiab sibtham nej poob ntsej muag ib hnub
>> xwb thiaj tas.
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>> Mr. James Born2beHmong, your comment that those children of the Hmong
>> returnees from Thailand would never be classified as Lao citizens is
>> totally preposterous. Plus your prediction the future of the returned
>> Hmong children and/or offspring of those former arms of VP in Laos
>> that they "won't get a chance to have a full potential on education"
>> is completely bogus due to your own ill-minded and dirty-hearted. How
>> do you conclude that these Hmong children would not have access to
>> education in Laos? Please provide us your factual data on this account
>> of discrimination against Hmong children whom parent were soldiers of
>> VP or those returned from Thailand since 1975. You must be blinded or
>> sleep talking. For your information, there are many Hmong children who
>> parents were soldiers during the Vientnam War including those returned
>> from Thailand and those came out of the jungle are actually become
>> police officers, teachers, doctors, engineers, and some even become
>> foreign embassy assistance counselors.
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>> For your fake uncle's case, his children probably dumb like him
>> (believe that VP will return to Long Cheng) or for a better scenario
>> your uncle is too poor to send his children for a higher ed. Shame on
>> him and you! You should have sent some monies to help your uncle send
>> his children to college in Vientiane. No hard feeling, not only you
>> but all Neohom people including Mr. Lee Pao Xiong, in 2003, he voiced
>> to have a boycott Hmong Americans for traveling to Laos and sending
>> monies to their relatives in Laos (
http://groups.google.com/group/
>> soc.culture.hmong/browse_frm/thread/2da7d708e085ffe5/25f2b8e124df33c9?
>> lnk=gst&q=lee+pao+xiong+and+boycott#25f2b8e124df33c9).
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>> Mr. James Born your ill speaking here will do more harm to the Hmong
>> in Laos than good. You can hate the Lao Government as much as you want
>> but you can't look down or hate your own Hmong people who happen to
>> live in Laos. Let's put aside your political seeking dream in Laos and
>> join hands together to educate and promote our Hmong people in Laos to
>> live in peace and harmony from now on.
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>> Your different opinion is always welcome.
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> smile@Xoblaim...
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> i must hit a land mine..............vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvooollllla! i had
> my sources and my uncle is in the states now. my uncle was a very well
> educated Mhong men back in the FGVP era. Perhaps, you had not lived in
> Laos to understaand the historical questions that they asked--starting
> from you, your paretns, and your grand parents, to see where you fit
> in. nowadays, i have cousin who used to live with LPDR during the war
> (with a well-known parents)--but the corruption of the leaders made
> him responsible for their actions, while they cannot find any against
> him. the system released him free, but he is no longer giving the
> opportunity for a well pay job as he used to have.
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> the education potential does have an affect upon these WW Mhong
> children if they would to be returning back to Laos because of the
> root your from make a difference as who you are when you are running
> for office or getting a higher education.
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> these are true statements from the source that i had....enough
> explained because you knew nothing about LPDR and their brains.
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555555@Born,
Zhen, again if you don't teach your Chinese Kungfu skills to Mr. Born,
he will ruin the reputation of your root.
Mr. Born, your uncle was a very well educated Hmong man in the VP era.
Why don't you tell us which Ivy League university your uncle graduated
from at that time? If your uncle was too well educated, how come your
and his superior VP ruled the Hmong, especially in Long Cheng, with
the tip of their guns for nearly 15 years? Based on our history, there
was none very well educated Hmong man or men prior to or during the
Vietnam War. In fact, DYD was only very well educated Hmong man who
graduated from France 2 or 3 years before 1975. Are you telling us
that your uncle is DYD?
Talking about corruption! Why don't you ask your uncle a historical
question about corruption? I bet your very well educated uncle will
answer you that there was no corruption existed during the VP era
because he is too well educated so he could not tell what is a
corruption, which in his mind vp never corrupted his soldiers'
salaries. Now you are a very well educated Hmong man like your uncle
too, so you say the corruption done by your uncle, VP, and the old
Royal Lao Government is OK but the corruption conducted by the current
regime Lao Government is not OK. Like they say, an apple won't fall
far from its tree.
Of course, there will be a big affect on the Hmong children who return
from Thailand because of their brains have been washed by people like
your kind so they will never accept or obey the rules of laws in Laos.
They will keep dreaming to overthrow their own government. Your kind
of people will keep telling them not to take part of the potential
education in Laos. And your kind of people will keep pushing them to
make troubles like 32 year ago.
You are right, I don't know anything about LPDR and their brains but I
grew up in Laos half of my life.
