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Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: cwjmem
Date: Aug 9, 2008 11:47

I suggest that these old farts need to find enjoyable hobbies instead
of finding a way to slash each other's throat. Their times are over.
None of these deserve to be a role model for younger generation.

On Aug 6, 11:10 pm, Pobntool...@yahoo.com wrote:
> With the permission of my superior I can now openly post what had been
> throat infringing with vulgarity of mouth battle among the Hmong
> leftists and rightists that strayed all over the Internet in the last
> couple of days.  Some of you might have already seen or been
> participating in these discussions.  My team and I have been dealt
> with this issue intensively in trying to ground the opposition in the
> past few months and thus far I believe we had offensively put the
> opposition at rested. Kids, after reading these hostile messages your
> job is to analyze and come out your conclusion for the general public
> to view and judge.  In my opinion I feel that DYD is politically and
> mindfully weak; he seemed to be helpless and frustrated on his own
> leadership role that he even allowed the herd of lions torn his flash
> into pieces. Yog tias DYD tawv thiab tswv yim txaus ces peb pab txiv
> tub yeej tsis kam thab yawg li ntag ov tiam sis peb yeej paub lawm
> tias peb ua li cas, hais li cas los yawg yeej ua tsis tau quav dab tsi
> rau peb li yog li ntawd thiaj li tso txiv PX sim tag los sim dua thiab
> tiag. Nej cov me nyuam yaus ntawm ko sim ho nyeem saib nej puas paub
> tias pab twg yuav yog pab champion thaum kawg yog tias cia peb sib tog
> mus? Are you with us (the dynasty family) or with them (the Hmong
> enemies)?
>
> From: xang vang
> To: Dr. Yang Dao ; Bon Xiong ; lauraxi...@cox.net ;
> povfwmyejy...@gmail.com ; lindap...@hotmail.com ;
> tongvu...@yahoo.com ; veteran...@hotmail.com ;
> mike_lor2...@yahoo.com ; rep.cy.t...@house.mn ; Xai Khue Khang ;
> knvang...@att.net ; suvangpha...@yahoo.com ; pter...@yahoo.com ;
> xi...@aol.com ; peterphia_xi...@yahoo.com ; vajnc...@sbcglobal.net ;
> yangkah...@yahoo.com ; Xiong Key Vang ; kongchengxi...@yahoo.com ;
> mailee...@uri.edu ; gv...@factfinding.org ; HOUA YANG ;
> thu...@factfinding.org ; beev...@usa.com ; stacey...@comcast.net ;
> sunrise...@yahoo.com ; charlievang1...@yahoo.com ;
> yangmichae...@hotmail.com ; xiong_char...@yahoo.com ;
> kuexion...@hotmail.com ; drluev...@hotmail.com ; rockynv...@aol.com ;
> vam...@yahoo.com ; tv...@csp.edu ; sailee...@hotmail.com ;
> vanglofa...@yahoo.com ; x...@juno.com ; chao....@mail.house.gov ;
> naokao.v...@yahoo.com ; ctv...@csustan.edu ; zoovtxusv...@yahoo.com ;
> vty...@usa.com ; yenvis...@hotmail.com ;
>  soliving.k...@house.mn ; tvan...@yahoo.com ; vangchar...@yahoo.com ;
> Charlie Chang ; geuv...@yahoo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:12 AM
> Subject: RE: Public Apology from Vaj Xab
> Dear Dr. Yang Dao,
>
> Thanks for thinking Hmong way.  I did think of Hmong way that was why
> I have put your Birth Certificate to prove to the youngsters that the
> elders had mutually undertood of each other and helped each other to
> boost up a man or a woman in the past to qualify to serve such high
> position.  I had no bad intention to damage your reputation or trying
> to condemn you for any reason.  But rather saying some thing must have
> prove.  I am not a lawyer and I did not pay attention to it as well.
> However, since the law suite case is public and the document is on
> public record any body can get it.  Just only they have to go get it
> with the clerk of the court by the case no. C6-00-004067.
>
> Dr. Yang Dao and Friends,
>
> "It is my mistake to put up Dr. Yang's birth certificate for you to
> see it as proving that the elders did help one another and made a
> mutual assistance to each other to have the Hmong survive from
> crises.  I am here today, on this email, to ask for Dr. Yang Dao's
> appology of my naugthy mistake by putting his birth certificate on the
> attachment with an email to Bon Xiong.  By reading Dr. Yang Dao's
> email back to me, I now do realize that I might have violated some law
> that I did not know about it.  I am asking Dr. Yang Dao to forgive me
> ask his young brother.  I did not have any intention to damage his
> reputation.  Dr. Yang Dao and I used to and are good friends.  I
> remember when he first come to California '77 and we drove up to
> Montana through Fresno, Merced, Portland, Seattle, Idaho and then
> Montana.  We spoke about how could we use the past to be lessons for
> the future.  Again, he came to Minnesota '80 to search for his way to
> come to live in
>  the US.  I was the Project Director of Lao Family of Minnesota at the
> time and I took him to the University of Minnesota to meet my
> professor friends there.  I aked my friends there to create job for
> him so he can bring his family over.  With these relationsip I have no
> person hat of him.  I will yet still remain his friend and support of
> him whenever he needed.  I will also do not hesitate to call him for
> help or participate on any dignity event, if I should have one in the
> future.  I am today publicly call for his friendship and brotherhood
> relation.  Thanks for the forgiveness that you will provide as well as
> thinking Hmong, Dr. Yang Dao."  Thanks. Xang
> ________________________________
> From: dr.yang...@comcast.net
> To: vangx...@hotmail.com; bonxio...@yahoo.com; lauraxi...@cox.net;
> povfwmyejy...@gmail.com; lindap...@hotmail.com; tongvu...@yahoo.com;
> veteran...@hotmail.com; mike_lor2...@yahoo.com; rep.cy.t...@house.mn;
> xaik...@yahoo.com; knvang...@att.net; suvangpha...@yahoo.com;
> pter...@yahoo.com; xi...@aol.com; peterphia_xi...@yahoo.com;
> vajnc...@sbcglobal.net; yangkah...@yahoo.com; xiongkeyv...@yahoo.com;
> kongchengxi...@yahoo.com; mailee...@uri.edu; gv...@factfinding.org;
> houawy...@yahoo.com; thu...@factfinding.org; beev...@usa.com;
> stacey...@comcast.net; sunrise...@yahoo.com;
> charlievang1...@yahoo.com; yangmichae...@hotmail.com;
> xiong_char...@yahoo.com; kuexion...@hotmail.com;
> drluev...@hotmail.com; rockynv...@aol.com; vam...@yahoo.com;
> tv...@csp.edu; sailee...@hotmail.com; vanglofa...@yahoo.com;
> x...@juno.com; chao....@mail.house.gov; naokao.v...@yahoo.com;
> ctv...@csustan.edu; zoovtxusv...@yahoo.com; vty...@usa.com;
> yenvis...@hotmail.com; soliving.k...@house.mn;
>  tvan...@yahoo.com; vangchar...@yahoo.com; chuech...@yahoo.com;
> geuv...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: Request of Public Apology from Vaj Xab
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:56:52 -0600
> Paj Xab Vaj:
>
> Nej tuaj sib cav sib ceg ncauj liab vog nyob hauv Internet twb ua rau
> kuv pab nej txaj muag tas lawm, vim hais tias kuv yog Hmoob roj Hmoob
> ntshav ib yam li nej. Kuv pom cov Nplog, cov Nyab laj (Vietnamese)
> thiab cov Khaj Meem (Khmers) thoj nam tuaj nyob teb chaws Amelikas no
> los kuj tawg ua ntau pab ntau pawg vim nyias muaj nyias lub hom phiaj
> kam moos (polical visions). Tiam sis luag tsuas los sib cav txog lub
> zeem muag kam moos (political opinions) xwb, luag tsis tau muab
> personal attacks li nej coj los mus sib rhuav ua rau peb lub npe Hmoob
> tsw quav niab mus thoob lub qab ntuj khwb. Niaj hnub no, luag lwm haiv
> neeg (including neeg Amerikas) thiaj saib peb Hmoob tsis muaj nuj
> nqi.
>
> Kuv ua koj tsaug uas koj tseem recognize hais tias, yav dhau los, kuv
> kuj yog peb haiv Hmoob ib tug tub tau mus nrog luag ua nom nyob hauv
> National Political Consultative Council (Laotian Congress) of the
> Kingdom of Laos  txij April 1974 mus rau May 1975. (See attached
> article in Hmong Today). Tiam sis koj tsis muaj cai muab kuv tej ntaub
> ntawv private records tshaj tawm rau sawv daws. Lub 2 hlis xyoo 2000,
> koj thiab koj group Neo Hom tau liam hais tias kuv yog koom tshas
> (communist), nej thiaj mus hais kom Saint Paul Public Schools muab kuv
> rho tawm kuv txoj hauj lwm. Yog tus Superintendant hauv Saint Paul
> Public Schools tsis muab kuv rho tawm mas nej yuav tso bomb rau peb
> lub Saint Paul Public Schools lub Administration Building kom tawg
> ntsoog tas ib yam li cov "laib" tso bomb rau lub building nyob
> Oklahoma. Lub 4 hlis 2000 kuv thiaj tau txiav txim siab coj nej pab
> Neo Hom ntawd mus hais plaub. Lub 4 hlis 2001, koj thiab koj group Neo
> Hom
>  thiaj tau los lees (acknowledge) in front of the Justice Court
> representatives hais tias nej cov lus iab liam kuv ua koom tshas ntawd
> mas nej tsis muaj pov thawj (evidence), nej tau los "regret" (tu siab)
> txog tej yam uas nej tau ua tsis zoo rau kuv thiab nej tau los cog lus
> (promise) hais tias nej yuav tsis hais tej lus "untrue statements"
> txog kuv mus yav tom ntej. Kuv xav hais tias nej pab ntawd yog Hmoob
> ib yam li kuv thiab nej yog neej yog tsav, kuv thiaj tau muab rooj
> plaub no tso tseg.  Kuv yug los ua Hmoob, kuv tsuas ua rooj plaub no
> tawm los nrhiav kev ncaj ncees (justice) rau peb haiv Hmoob xwb, kuv
> tsis vam dab tsi tshaj ntawd.
>
> Dua li ntawd, kuv kuj xav qhia koj paub hais tias, thaum ub, 3 lub teb
> chaws: Cambodia, Laos thiab Vietnam yog French Indochina. Xyoo 1954,
> ua ntej Fab Kis yuav muab French Indochina faib ua 4 lub teb chaws twj
> lij (independant) xws li Kingdom of Cambodia, Kingdom of Laos,  North
> Vietnam (communist) thiab South Vietnam (non-communist), cov nom tswv
> Fab Kis kav teb chaws Indochina thiaj hais kuv txiv saib kuv txiv yuav
> xaiv ua haiv neeg (nationality) twg. Kuv txiv thiaj xaiv ua neeg Los
> Tsuas (Lao Nationality). Kuv txiv tsev neeg thiaj ua Lao nationality
> txij puag thaum ntawd los. Kuv tsis to taub hais tias koj thiab Laura
> Xiong nej muaj nej lus tsis sib haum, kuv twb tsis muaj feem dab tsi
> nrog nej tej lus sib cav sib ceg ntawd. Yog vim li cas koj thiaj muab
> kuv lub npe saum tawm rau hauv koj tsab email hauv qab no thiab koj
> tseem muab kuv daim Birth Certificate uas xyoo 2000-2001 nej pab Neo
> Hom nrog kuv ua plaub tom Minnesota Justice Court coj los
>  tshaj tawm thiab. Koj yeej paub hais tias kuv tsis tau tso cai rau
> koj,  koj cia li muab kuv tej private records tshaj tawm mas yog koj
> violate U.S. Constitution thiab U.S. laws. Tiam sis koj txhob txwm ua
> xwb.
>
> Ua li mas koj yuav tau muab kuv daim Birth Certificate rho tawm hauv
> Internet mus thiab koj yuav tau sau ib tsab ntawv hauv internet no los
> ua public apology rau kuv. Yog koj tsis ua public apology mas txaus
> take legal actions los kuv yuav tau ua mus. Yog koj yog mab yog suav
> mas kuv twb take legal actions lawm. Vim koj yog Hmoob, kuv thiaj sau
> tsab ntawv no tuaj ceeb toom rau koj. Kuv muab ib week rau koj muab
> kuv daim Birth Certificate rho tawm hauv Internet thiab rau koj sau
> tsab ntawv ...
>
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