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Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: ix8mno
Date: Aug 7, 2008 13:10

On Aug 7, 1:43 pm, ເຄຣຊີ້ແລຣີ້ yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 2:10 am, Pobntool...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> With the permission of my superior I can now openly post what had been
>> throat infringing with vulgarity of mouth battle among the Hmong
>> leftists and rightists that strayed all over the Internet in the last
>> couple of days.  Some of you might have already seen or been
>> participating in these discussions.  My team and I have been dealt
>> with this issue intensively in trying to ground the opposition in the
>> past few months and thus far I believe we had offensively put the
>> opposition at rested. Kids, after reading these hostile messages your
>> job is to analyze and come out your conclusion for the general public
>> to view and judge.  In my opinion I feel that DYD is politically and
>> mindfully weak; he seemed to be helpless and frustrated on his own
>> leadership role that he even allowed the herd of lions torn his flash
>> into pieces. Yog tias DYD tawv thiab tswv yim txaus ces peb pab txiv
>> tub yeej tsis kam thab yawg li ntag ov tiam sis peb yeej paub lawm
>> tias peb ua li cas, hais li cas los yawg yeej ua tsis tau quav dab tsi
>> rau peb li yog li ntawd thiaj li tso txiv PX sim tag los sim dua thiab
>> tiag. Nej cov me nyuam yaus ntawm ko sim ho nyeem saib nej puas paub
>> tias pab twg yuav yog pab champion thaum kawg yog tias cia peb sib tog
>> mus? Are you with us (the dynasty family) or with them (the Hmong
>> enemies)?
>
>> From: xang vang
>> To: Dr. Yang Dao ; Bon Xiong ; lauraxi...@cox.net ;
>> povfwmyejy...@gmail.com ; lindap...@hotmail.com ;
>> tongvu...@yahoo.com ; veteran...@hotmail.com ;
>> mike_lor2...@yahoo.com ; rep.cy.t...@house.mn ; Xai Khue Khang ;
>> knvang...@att.net ; suvangpha...@yahoo.com ; pter...@yahoo.com ;
>> xi...@aol.com ; peterphia_xi...@yahoo.com ; vajnc...@sbcglobal.net ;
>> yangkah...@yahoo.com ; Xiong Key Vang ; kongchengxi...@yahoo.com ;
>> mailee...@uri.edu ; gv...@factfinding.org ; HOUA YANG ;
>> thu...@factfinding.org ; beev...@usa.com ; stacey...@comcast.net ;
>> sunrise...@yahoo.com ; charlievang1...@yahoo.com ;
>> yangmichae...@hotmail.com ; xiong_char...@yahoo.com ;
>> kuexion...@hotmail.com ; drluev...@hotmail.com ; rockynv...@aol.com ;
>> vam...@yahoo.com ; tv...@csp.edu ; sailee...@hotmail.com ;
>> vanglofa...@yahoo.com ; x...@juno.com ; chao....@mail.house.gov ;
>> naokao.v...@yahoo.com ; ctv...@csustan.edu ; zoovtxusv...@yahoo.com ;
>> vty...@usa.com ; yenvis...@hotmail.com ;
>>  soliving.k...@house.mn ; tvan...@yahoo.com ; vangchar...@yahoo.com ;
>> Charlie Chang ; geuv...@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:12 AM
>> Subject: RE: Public Apology from Vaj Xab
>> Dear Dr. Yang Dao,
>
>> Thanks for thinking Hmong way.  I did think of Hmong way that was why
>> I have put your Birth Certificate to prove to the youngsters that the
>> elders had mutually undertood of each other and helped each other to
>> boost up a man or a woman in the past to qualify to serve such high
>> position.  I had no bad intention to damage your reputation or trying
>> to condemn you for any reason.  But rather saying some thing must have
>> prove.  I am not a lawyer and I did not pay attention to it as well.
>> However, since the law suite case is public and the document is on
>> public record any body can get it.  Just only they have to go get it
>> with the clerk of the court by the case no. C6-00-004067.
>
>> Dr. Yang Dao and Friends,
>
>> "It is my mistake to put up Dr. Yang's birth certificate for you to
>> see it as proving that the elders did help one another and made a
>> mutual assistance to each other to have the Hmong survive from
>> crises.  I am here today, on this email, to ask for Dr. Yang Dao's
>> appology of my naugthy mistake by putting his birth certificate on the
>> attachment with an email to Bon Xiong.  By reading Dr. Yang Dao's
>> email back to me, I now do realize that I might have violated some law
>> that I did not know about it.  I am asking Dr. Yang Dao to forgive me
>> ask his young brother.  I did not have any intention to damage his
>> reputation.  Dr. Yang Dao and I used to and are good friends.  I
>> remember when he first come to California '77 and we drove up to
>> Montana through Fresno, Merced, Portland, Seattle, Idaho and then
>> Montana.  We spoke about how could we use the past to be lessons for
>> the future.  Again, he came to Minnesota '80 to search for his way to
>> come to live in
>>  the US.  I was the Project Director of Lao Family of Minnesota at the
>> time and I took him to the University of Minnesota to meet my
>> professor friends there.  I aked my friends there to create job for
>> him so he can bring his family over.  With these relationsip I have no
>> person hat of him.  I will yet still remain his friend and support of
>> him whenever he needed.  I will also do not hesitate to call him for
>> help or participate on any dignity event, if I should have one in the
>> future.  I am today publicly call for his friendship and brotherhood
>> relation.  Thanks for the forgiveness that you will provide as well as
>> thinking Hmong, Dr. Yang Dao."  Thanks. Xang
>> ________________________________
>> From: dr.yang...@comcast.net
>> To: vangx...@hotmail.com; bonxio...@yahoo.com; lauraxi...@cox.net;
>> povfwmyejy...@gmail.com; lindap...@hotmail.com; tongvu...@yahoo.com;
>> veteran...@hotmail.com; mike_lor2...@yahoo.com; rep.cy.t...@house.mn;
>> xaik...@yahoo.com; knvang...@att.net; suvangpha...@yahoo.com;
>> pter...@yahoo.com; xi...@aol.com; peterphia_xi...@yahoo.com;
>> vajnc...@sbcglobal.net; yangkah...@yahoo.com; xiongkeyv...@yahoo.com;
>> kongchengxi...@yahoo.com; mailee...@uri.edu; gv...@factfinding.org;
>> houawy...@yahoo.com; thu...@factfinding.org; beev...@usa.com;
>> stacey...@comcast.net; sunrise...@yahoo.com;
>> charlievang1...@yahoo.com; yangmichae...@hotmail.com;
>> xiong_char...@yahoo.com; kuexion...@hotmail.com;
>> drluev...@hotmail.com; rockynv...@aol.com; vam...@yahoo.com;
>> tv...@csp.edu; sailee...@hotmail.com; vanglofa...@yahoo.com;
>> x...@juno.com; chao....@mail.house.gov; naokao.v...@yahoo.com;
>> ctv...@csustan.edu; zoovtxusv...@yahoo.com; vty...@usa.com;
>> yenvis...@hotmail.com; soliving.k...@house.mn;
>>  tvan...@yahoo.com; vangchar...@yahoo.com; chuech...@yahoo.com;
>> geuv...@yahoo.com
>> Subject: Re: Request of Public Apology from Vaj Xab
>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:56:52 -0600
>> Paj Xab Vaj:
>
>> Nej tuaj sib cav sib ceg ncauj liab vog nyob hauv Internet twb ua rau
>> kuv pab nej txaj muag tas lawm, vim hais tias kuv yog Hmoob roj Hmoob
>> ntshav ib yam li nej. Kuv pom cov Nplog, cov Nyab laj (Vietnamese)
>> thiab cov Khaj Meem (Khmers) thoj nam tuaj nyob teb chaws Amelikas no
>> los kuj tawg ua ntau pab ntau pawg vim nyias muaj nyias lub hom phiaj
>> kam moos (polical visions). Tiam sis luag tsuas los sib cav txog lub
>> zeem muag kam moos (political opinions) xwb, luag tsis tau muab
>> personal attacks li nej coj los mus sib rhuav ua rau peb lub npe Hmoob
>> tsw quav niab mus thoob lub qab ntuj khwb. Niaj hnub no, luag lwm haiv
>> neeg (including neeg Amerikas) thiaj saib peb Hmoob tsis muaj nuj
>> nqi.
>
>> Kuv ua koj tsaug uas koj tseem recognize hais tias, yav dhau los, kuv
>> kuj yog peb haiv Hmoob ib tug tub tau mus nrog luag ua nom nyob hauv
>> National Political Consultative Council (Laotian Congress) of the
>> Kingdom of Laos  txij April 1974 mus rau May 1975. (See attached
>> article in Hmong Today). Tiam sis koj tsis muaj cai muab kuv tej ntaub
>> ntawv private records tshaj tawm rau sawv daws. Lub 2 hlis xyoo 2000,
>> koj thiab koj group Neo Hom tau liam hais tias kuv yog koom tshas
>> (communist), nej thiaj mus hais kom Saint Paul Public Schools muab kuv
>> rho tawm kuv txoj hauj lwm. Yog tus Superintendant hauv Saint Paul
>> Public Schools tsis muab kuv rho tawm mas nej yuav tso bomb rau peb
>> lub Saint Paul Public Schools lub Administration Building kom tawg
>> ntsoog tas ib yam li cov "laib" tso bomb rau lub building nyob
>> Oklahoma. Lub 4 hlis 2000 kuv thiaj tau txiav txim siab coj nej pab
>> Neo Hom ntawd mus hais plaub. Lub 4 hlis 2001, koj thiab koj group Neo
>> Hom
>>  thiaj tau los lees (acknowledge) in front of the Justice Court
>> representatives hais tias nej cov lus iab liam kuv ua koom tshas ntawd
>> mas nej tsis muaj pov thawj (evidence), nej tau los "regret" (tu siab)
>> txog tej yam uas nej tau ua tsis zoo rau kuv thiab nej tau los cog lus
>> (promise) hais tias nej yuav tsis hais tej lus "untrue statements"
>> txog kuv mus yav tom ntej. Kuv xav hais tias nej pab ntawd yog Hmoob
>> ib yam li kuv thiab nej yog neej yog tsav, kuv thiaj tau muab rooj
>> plaub no tso tseg.  Kuv yug los ua Hmoob, kuv tsuas ua rooj plaub no
>> tawm los nrhiav kev ncaj ncees (justice) rau peb haiv Hmoob xwb, kuv
>> tsis vam dab tsi tshaj ntawd.
>
>> Dua li ntawd, kuv kuj xav qhia koj paub hais tias, thaum ub, 3 lub teb
>> chaws: Cambodia, Laos thiab Vietnam yog French Indochina. Xyoo 1954,
>> ua ntej Fab Kis yuav muab French Indochina faib ua 4 lub teb chaws twj
>> lij (independant) xws li Kingdom of Cambodia, Kingdom of Laos,  North
>> Vietnam (communist) thiab South Vietnam (non-communist), cov nom tswv
>> Fab Kis kav teb chaws Indochina thiaj hais kuv txiv saib kuv txiv yuav
>> xaiv ua haiv neeg (nationality) twg. Kuv txiv thiaj xaiv ua neeg Los
>> Tsuas (Lao Nationality). Kuv txiv tsev neeg thiaj ua Lao nationality
>> txij puag thaum ntawd los. Kuv tsis to taub hais tias koj thiab Laura
>> Xiong nej muaj nej lus tsis sib haum, kuv twb tsis muaj feem dab tsi
>> nrog nej tej lus sib cav sib ceg ntawd. Yog vim li cas koj thiaj muab
>> kuv lub npe saum tawm rau hauv koj tsab email hauv qab no thiab koj
>> tseem muab kuv daim Birth Certificate uas xyoo 2000-2001 nej pab Neo
>> Hom nrog kuv ua plaub tom Minnesota Justice Court coj los
>>  tshaj tawm thiab. Koj yeej paub hais tias kuv tsis tau tso cai rau
>> koj,  koj cia li muab kuv tej private records tshaj tawm mas yog koj
>> violate U.S. Constitution thiab U.S. laws. Tiam sis koj txhob txwm ua
>> xwb.
>
>> Ua li mas koj yuav tau muab kuv daim Birth Certificate rho tawm hauv
>> Internet mus thiab
>
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4 heaven sake do what is best for your village. one suggestion is to
walk northeast by northwest. maybe you can find a well and hopefully
next to it is that pine tree you been searcing. it's time to pause and
do something with your free life...please.
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