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Group: soc.culture.hmong · Group Profile
Author: KL
Date: May 18, 2007 08:17

On May 15, 7:31 pm, Nojnkh...@yahoo.com wrote:
> NkaujNyiag aw...
>
> Koj tso qhov nov tawm ces Hmoob xav hais tias Hmoob muaj tebchaw no
> lawm lamaj. Cov yuav mus dag yuav nyiaj los muaj, hos cov yuav vwm es
> khiav rov mus Nplogteb los muaj, hos cov dag kom Hmoob rovqab sibtua
> lo muaj, es koj xav tias UN yuav pab Hmoob no lov? Sim hais seb UN
> puas mus nkag tau Nplogteb maj? I think not. Only fools and shallow
> brain believe in UN. But please keep the hope high because that's the
> only chance.
>
> Nnk

Nojnkhawb and all,

Qhov kuv tso tawm no tsi yog yuav encourage kom Hmoob to xav hais tias
yog yuav muaj teb muaj chaw. Tabsi yog tso tawm kom sawv daws paub
qhov tseeb hais tias how the UN system works. Txawm yog peb Hmoob tsis
mloog qhov tseeb es pheej muab luag tej lus txhais raws siab xav,
thiaj raug dag ntxias ua piam sij tag los siab tseem tsis nqig thiab.

Kuv twb piav meej hais tias, nyob rau lub ntiaj teb no, muaj coob
tshaj ntawm 5000 haiv neeg uas considered Indigenous Peoples. Cov neeg
no ib txwm nyob muaj chaw, thiab lawv survived on the land,
territories, and natural resources (xyoob ntoo, tsiaj nrhuab nrag, dej
haus, nyiaj kub, tooj hlau, thiab water nrog rau tej huab cua ua yog
yam yug lawv hlob, laus, ib tiam dhau ib tiam. Tabsi thaum muaj cov
nom tswv tuaj txeeb tau lub tebchaws kav, lawv cia li muab tej xyoob
ntoo, qhov nyiaj qhov kub, rhuav tshem tas. tseem build factories to
pollute the river/water system, the air, laij pej xeem tawm ntawm lawv
thaj chaw lawv ib txwm nyob. Tsis tas li ntawd, cov Indigenous People
tseem tsis muaj cai los tawm suab tiv thaiv lawv haiv neeg, tseem raug
nom tswv qhuab yuam caij tsuj, tsis muaj kev ncaj ncees.

Vim yog cov neeg no tsis muaj cais yuav txuas lus tau nrog cov Nation
States, los yog hais raws individual nation xwb ces nom tswv tsis
ntseeg, thiab tsis mloog. Yog li, UN thiaj tsa tau lub Permanent Forum
on Indigenous Issues no los rau sawv daws tuaj mus tawm suab, tuaj sib
cev lus nrog cov nom tswv thiab cov koom haum nrog rau the Indigenous
Peoples kom sib pab daws teebmeem.

Thaum tuaj txog lub rooj sablaj no, tsis yog cia li mus zaum in the
Assembly Hall mloog ntsia neeg xwb. Tabsi sawv daws yuav tsum muaj
meetings, side events, tawm tswv yim saib tag kis, lub week no, or the
next agenda yuav hais txog dabtsi. Sawv daws twb yuav tsum los tawm
tswv yim sau kom tau cov lus yuav coj mus nyeem rau hauv lub Assembly
Hall, rau cov nom tswv. Cov lus los yog cov statements made by each
caucus, organization, or government mas yeej muab coj los tso rau hauv
lub website rau neeg ntiaj teb nyeem hais tias, teebmeem yog dabtsi
tiag. Cov Indigenous Peoples make the statements, the Permanent Forum
Members and its secretariate introduce to the higher up level- then
lawv take it from there.

Yes, nws yeej slow, thiab tsis happen over night, ces sawv daws pheej
xav hais tias, UN can "do nothing". UN cov representatives yuav ua
tsis tau dabtsi, yog hais tias the Indigenous Peoples los yog the
VICTIMS tsis push the issues forward, ces luag hnov los ua txuj tsis
pom. Pom los hais tias tsis ntxheeg xyov puas muaj tseeb. Tabsi, yog
thaum ntau lub koom haum, ntau haiv neeg, ntau tus witness tuaj hais,
lawm, luag yuav mus investigate.

How the law works? piv xam li Hmoob niaj hnub complain hais tias,
Hmoob rov tua hmoob, nplog liab tua Hmoob, etc....tabsi, thaum luag
hais tias, yog li no, muab pov thawj los. Sawv daws muab tau pov thawj
los, tabsi muab rau luag saib tag xwb, twb tsis muaj neeg investigate
hais tias, ua li cov evidence ntawd, yog los ntawm leejtwg los, tus
tsim cov teebmeem ntawd yog leejtwg yog tus ua tiag.....see.....tus
twg los hais tias, yeej paub yog leej twg ua lawm,....tabsi ho tsis
muaj tus mus testify hais tias, "kuv yog tus pom, paub, ntsia
ntsoov, .....". Thaum hais mas chim siab yuav tuag, "yog xwj tau mas
nkaug kiag xwb"...tabsi thaum luag nug tuaj tiag no ces tus twg los
qhov ncauj kaw ntom nti......

Qhov hmoob ua li no, vim yog txoj cai tsis protect Hmoob thiab. Yog
leejtwg hais tawm, ua heev, ces tus ntawd raug tua tiag, ces Hmoob
ntshai...mas tej no, thiaj ua rau Hmoob raug dag, raug manipulated los
ntawm lwm tus....kuv tsis yog hais raug manipulate los ntawm lwm haiv
neeg los yog rov raug Hmoob manipulate Hmoob, vim it happens in both
ways.

Mas cov indigenous Peoples ua chim chim siab es tuaj hais lawv cov
teebmeem rau tim UN los, yeej tseem muaj teebmeem ib yam nkaus. Muaj
ib co, thaum lawv tuaj txog tid, lawv tuaj hais tag nrog kev chim,
qhia txhua yam rau hauv UN, ces thaum lawv rov mus txog, lawv daim
passport raug tshem tawm tsis tau tuaj ntxiv hlo li lawm.

Mas kuv thiaj pom tau hais tias, nyob rau lub ntiaj teb no, yog tej
nom tswv tsis hlub pej xeem, tsis muab kev ncaj ncees rau sawv daws,
ces thaum tsis muaj kev sib haum xeeb, yuav muaj kev puas tsuaj tsis
muaj hnub zoo.

Sawv daws yuav tau mus koom luag tej rooj sajlaj, kom paub deal nrog
the issues. Yuav tsum muaj dialogue li lub rooj sablaj the Permanent
Forum no. Yog muaj yam teebmeem dabtsi, nom tswv los yuav tsum nrog
prevent kom txhob tshwm sim. Yuav tau cooperate/compromise nrog cov
Indigenous People kom muaj benefit rau lawv thiab, hos cov Indigenous
Peoples los yuav tau understand hais tias, vim neeg coob zuj zus tuaj
puv lub ntiaj teb lawm, lub neej nyob hav zoov hav tsuag, noj tsiaj
nruab nrag li ntau txhiab xyoo los yuav tsis zoo li qub.

Yogli, lub Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues yog ib lub tseem ceeb
los daws cov teebmeem no. Nws tsis yog cov Nations States
Representatives thiab cov Indigenous Peoples xwb, tabsi muaj cov
international agencies, organizations, nrog rau the UN tuaj sib tham.

Hais txog cov side Events....mas ua li kuv hais tas los, muaj cov
Indigenous Peoples tuaj thoob qab ntuj tuaj siab ntsib. Nws muaj cov
Indigenous Women Caucus, Asia Caucus, North American, South American,
South Africa caucuses. Within cov Caucuses no, tseem muaj tej group,
xws li Human Rights, Social Culture, Health, Education, Environment,
land and territories, Natural Resources discussion groups.

Each group, caucus muaj pre-meeting every night during the forum to
draft lawv cov statements, prepare to read for the Permanent Forum as
scheduled.

Cov Indigenous Peoples lub homphiaj/goal yog xws li fight for the
right to exist...kom nyob muaj chaw, muaj cai ceev lawv teej tug ( av,
chaw nyob, xyoob ntoo, qhov nyiaj qhov kub, dej haus, tsiaj nruab
nrag). The right to exist, include Self-Determinations...xws li,

1). muaj vaj haum sibluag, muaj cai ua noj ua haus, kawm ntaub kawm
ntawv, ua lag ua luam, ua liaj ua teb, ua vaj ua tsev, nyob ywj kaj
siab lug yam tsis pub lwm tus tuaj rhuav tshem lawv kev ntseeg, kev
noj nyob, kab lig kev cai.

2). Muaj cai tsa nom tsa tswv, txhim kho (Developement) thaj chaw raws
lawv siab nyiam yam tau kev tso cai los ntawm nom tswv kav tebchaws
(Autonomy).

3). Muaj cai faib teb chaws yog thaum nyob ua ke tsis tau, vim yog
tsis muaj kev sibhaum xeeb los ntawm kev tswj hwm pejxeem huab hwm
ntawm ib haiv neeg twg.(Independence).

Muaj ib co mas lawv tsis care txog yuav ua kom muaj ib lub tebchaws ua
lawv tug, tabsi fight for the right to be free from persecution,
discrimination, and disaggregation. Fight for equal rights.

Muaj ib co without thinking, lawv push for the third item uas yog ib
yam yuav muaj kev sib ntaus sib tua, thiab muaj kev puas tsuaj. Qhov
thib peb, yuav tsum yog ua kom muaj yeej, muaj swb mas thiaj yuav raws
cuag step thib peb.

Ua ntej ib haiv neeg twg yuav raws cuag step thib peb, yuav tsum yog
thaum sib ntaus sib tua, twb yeej los yog control tag lawm, thiab UN
nrog rau cov Nom Tswv tuaj sib hais ua hnub ua hmo, negotiate tsis
muaj hnub so mas thaum ntawd saib muaj pes tsawg lub tebchaws pom zoo
kom faib, mas saib luag paus yuav approve to "go ahead".

Peb Hmoob, yuav ua dabtsi, yuav tau paub kom tas. Vim yuav tau ib lub
tebchaws tsis yooj yim li sawv daws xav, es xav tau li cas ces hais li
ntawd xwb. The process is hundred times more difficult then a simple
conversation.

Nws yuav rov los txog rau los lus tej laus ib txwm cem peb cov hluas,
"txawj xwb tsis ntse, los yog ntse kawg, tabsi tsis txawj". Tus ntse
mas yeej ntse kawg lawm, hais li cas los yeej txaus yuav, txaus mloog,
thiab txaus nyiam kawg lawm. Tabsi, yog yuav kom mus ua kiag, no ces,
nws ua tsis tau raws li lub tswv yim nws tawm tau ntawd, vim tsis muaj
cov Txawj los pab nev, puas yog?

Muaj ib co mas txawj kawg li, kom ua dabtsi los yeej ua tau tag, tabsi
tsis muaj cov ntse ntse los nrog tawm tswv yim ces, thaum nqis tes mus
ua, tus neeg vas pheem li cas rau ces nws mus ua raws nraim ces "Paim
Quav" vim cov tswv yim ua kom nws mus ua ntawd "txia dej heev".. Thov
txim os, hais hais no cia li hais los rau tej lus tham pem no lawm.

:):)

Rov hais txog lub Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues....nej Hnov
hais tias cov Hmoob Chao Fa yuav mus faib teb faib chaw tim UN rau
hnub tim 18, May 2007. Kuv tsis tau nrog lawv koom kev sablaj, thiab
lawv cov members los tsis tau tham rau kuv hais tias lawv yuav mus
tham txog dabtsi tiag. Tabsi raws li kuv li experience, xws li lub May
16, 2005, kuv yog tus Chair Person rau lawv pab Hmoob Chao Fa no thaum
peb muaj lub Side Event in New York, during the Permemanent Forum
2005. Lub side events no, lawv caw cov neeg tseem ceeb xws li cov
Experts tuaj ntau lub agencies, ua paub txog self-determination rule,
economic and social issues, political system, UN system, etc. tuaj
tham rau sawv daws. Yog leejtwg muaj question, ces nug, thiab kawm.

Thaum luag tuaj piav tag rau yus lawm, its up to yus cov neeg saib,
yus to taub luag cov lus zoo npaum li cas xwb. Yus lub zog nyob qhov
twg, kev txhawb nqa (allies) yog leejtwg, yus xav tau dabtsi tiag
( peace building, los yog create war).

Mas qhov sawv daws mus koom cov rooj sablaj or side events no is not a
bad idea. Yus mus mloog kiag cov experts tuaj tham, thiab kawm es yus
thiaj paub ntau zuj zus, coj los siv rau yus tus kheej, yus haiv neeg.
Qhov yuav coj los siv tau zoo thiab phem, yog los ntawd yus cov neeg
mus koom cov rooj sablaj no, thiab cov coj los txiav txim tom tsev no
xwb.

That's all I have to say for now.

NkaujNyiag
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