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Author: TswvYimTswvYim Date: Nov 6, 2007 19:00
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Author: lisnomlisnom Date: Nov 7, 2007 00:22
On Nov 6, 6:00 pm, "TswvYim" yahoo.com> wrote:
Peb txhua tus puavleej yog los ntawm NOA los xwb. Saib peb hais tias
peb yog Vajtswv neeg ces yuav rov mus cuag Vajtswv los sis peb hais
tias peb yog Hmoob ces peb muaj peb ib tug Vajtswv no xwb. Kuv li kuv
paub lawm hais tias tsuas muaj ib tug Vajtswv uas tsim lub ntuj daim
av tus ntawd yog Jesus Christ. Peb haiv Hmoob rov mus cuag nws ces
peb yuav vammeej mus raws kom tau lwm haivneeg hos tsis muaj ces cia
peb mam ntsia seb zoo li cas ntxiv.
Nom
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Date: Nov 7, 2007 05:44
On Nov 6, 9:00 pm, "TswvYim" yahoo.com> wrote:
TswvYim
If we change the story as the following, it will reflect the true.
You can see from the above that the Creation by God as a fact is the
same as in the Bible but is elaborated differently. That mean we ar
lost and elaborated according to our own will This indicates that the
source of the Creation story was in the Bible and not a more ancient
traditional source as we thought. Further, at Miao funerals and
weddings they recite the names of their ancestors clear back to Adam
whom they name Dirt. Originally the Miao worshipped One God but under
the influence of the Han Chinese, they now worship different gods so
it very clear show that the Miao's are wrong. There are about seven
million Miao's but only 300,000 are now know the true and convert back
to Christians to the right God and right direction.
I ask that the true God to open all of your's eye, mind to see and
understand the true.
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Author: zhenzhen Date: Nov 7, 2007 07:00
Rev Cher Toua Yang,
You seem to be very ignorant of Hmong history and culture. These
'Miao' people are victims of the Christian machine to convert the
masses and rob the people of the world of their own identity, culture...
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Author: zhenzhen Date: Nov 7, 2007 07:19
tswv yim,
tej no yog lawv sau raws kev dag xwb. yog koj xav nrhiav kom tau tias
'hmoob yog tib neeg bible' los kuj tau; vim hmoob muaj dab neeg thooj
bible ned. ho, yog koj xav nrhiav kom tau tias, 'bible tib neeg yob
hmoob' los kuj tau tib yam nkaus; vim bible muaj dab neeg thooj hmoob
ned.
tej yam zoo li no, cuag nem yuav yog tias hmoob tsis muaj tug los sis
hmoob nem tsis yog hmoob es lees bible tej. tiam si, qhov niag website
no zoo vim tsis muaj ib qhov website los sib cav + nrhiav qhov tseeb
nrog xwb. http://www.brogilbert.org/ yog biasedly pro-Christian
research/propaganda. qhov website no ces zoo vim lawv ntseeg God xwb.
txhob tso siab. bible los kuj tsis yog original thiab. tej nyuag dab
neeg li dej nyab ntiaj teb no Jews copy ntawd lwm haiv neeg xwb.
On Nov 6, 10:00 pm, "TswvYim" yahoo.com> wrote:
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Author: Tzianeng VangTzianeng Vang Date: Nov 7, 2007 07:31
On Nov 6, 9:00 pm, "TswvYim" yahoo.com> wrote:
Tswv Yim,
Tam li paub ces pab Hmoob no thiab pab siv lub npe A-Hmao no kuj yog
cov ntseeg Askiv (British) Medodist tus Xibfwb Samuel Pollard tsa tau
thaum 1905 yav ntawv. Tom qab no thiaj tsa tau Hmoob thawj tus Xibfwb
Vaj Txawb Meem (Wang Zhiming); nws thiaj muab tau cov ntaub ntawv
Xibfwb Pollard tsim tau coj los luam ua cov nkauj txhawb siab thiab
cov Vajlugkub (Bible) thaum 1930s ntawv...ziag no tab tom muaj ib tug
boj yaig Suav hu ua Robert Lin no mus tshawb txog thiab yuav muab
Xibfwb Vaj Txawb Meem lub neej coj los ua ib zag movie...nws twb sau
daim script tiav lawm, thiab...
Tej kev ntseeg raws li Vajlugkub hais ntawv kuj yog ib qho zoo mus
tshawb (research) thiab saib puas yeey muaj li ntawv los yog tsuas yog
peb cov Hmoob nyob txij li xeev Guizhou, Sichuan, Yunnan, thiab
Guangxi xwb...
Muaj ntxiv mam li tham tom qab...ua tsaug rau qhov post no...
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Date: Nov 7, 2007 08:00
cov niag tibneeg zoo li lisnom ces...more lost than those who believe
in a bastard as a god.
yaweh
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Date: Nov 7, 2007 10:38
On Nov 7, 9:00 am, zhen gmail.com> wrote:
> I understand your NEED and WANT for Hmong people to kneel down to your
> god and Christain faith, but that does not excuse you for perpetuating
> ignorance and lies. For a Rev, surely this behavior is sub-standard
> practice? Why don't you try a different approach and speak the Gospel
> for what it is instead of trying to insert it in Hmong/Miao history
> for creating the legitimacy connection? Maybe the light of the Gospel
> can stand on its own merits to CONVERT according to your heart's
> desire better than the darkness of your ignorance and lies?
Yes Zhen, indeed I want all the Hmong kneel down to the Gospel of
Christ. Jesus Christ the master command to do so, look at Acts 1:8
"But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you
will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and
to the ends of the earth."
Matthew 28:19-20 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations,
baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the
Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded
you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age."
> sau npe, koj tus me yaj, poj zhen ruam dig muag.
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Author: jtjt Date: Nov 7, 2007 12:01
Lisnom,
Kuv xav hais tias koj yuam kev loj heev lawm. Jesus Christ es nyuam
qhuav tshwm tsis ntev no xwb es. Lub ntuj thiab daim av twb tshwm ua
ntej nws lawm na.
Kuv hnov hais tias cov coj kev cai tshiab hais xov tooj cua hais tias
"Ua ntej yus yuav nrog yus pojniam pw ua kev mas yuav tsum thov
Vajtswv tso. Yog yus thov nrog pw ib zaug hmo ntawd xwb mas tsuas yog
ib zaug xwb. Yog hais tias yus tshaj lawm mas tag kis kaj ntug yuav
mob yus taub hau mus yuav tawg li. Yuav tau mus cuag xwbfwb kom daws
kev txhaum tso thiaj zoo no, puas muaj tseeb ne?"
jt
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Author: lisnomlisnom Date: Nov 8, 2007 01:45
jt wrote:
> Lisnom,
>
> Kuv xav hais tias koj yuam kev loj heev lawm. Jesus Christ es nyuam
> qhuav tshwm tsis ntev no xwb es. Lub ntuj thiab daim av twb tshwm ua
> ntej nws lawm na.
Tus me kwv JT, puas yog nej Hmoob ib txwm ntseeg li nej xwb es peb
thiaj poob qab mas? Nej tseem txomnyem tsis tau txaus los tsis cas.
Qhov kuv hais ntawd cov lus tsis yog kuv li nws yog tus Tswv li. Yog
koj xav paub yuav tau txhos caug thov tiag seb puas muaj li nws hais
nram no:
Mosiah 3: 8
8 And he shall be called Jesus bChrist, the Son of God, the Father of
heaven and earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and
his fmother shall be called Mary.
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