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Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: syang05_
Date: Jul 9, 2008 17:21

after more than 30 yrs of residency in the US, one of the world most
efficient democracies, in which elections are frequently held to
evaluate leadership performance at all levels of governments, hmong
general vang pao, although he began preaching equality, opportunity,
and hmong national unity since his house arrest, neither grasps the
concept of democracy nor want to change his dictatorial attitude. in
his july 4, 2008, speech, the general asserts that "all organizations
are his" since he is the "father" of the Hmong and thus led them to
come to the US. such catch words are often spoke by communist leaders,
such Kim Il Sung, Mao Zedong, and Castro, implying that they are the
states and the states are them so that they are the rules of society
and thus control all means of production.

according to the law of the situation, the words might be appropriate
in communist states, but they are not appropriate in democracy. since
a leader without policy direction to move his/her people toward growth
and prosperity in a democratic way in a world of democracy, is the
leader still effective? why or why not? if not, in what way will the
people do to choose a new leader?
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: Pao
Date: Jul 9, 2008 18:14

Can you post a COMPLETE transcript of his speech?
I think one needs to read the entire speech before any meaningful
comment can be made.

Thanks...

Pao

On Jul 10, 10:21 am, "syang...@hotmail.com" hotmail.com>
wrote:
> after more than 30 yrs of residency in the US, one of the world most
> efficient democracies, in which elections are frequently...
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: zhen
Date: Jul 9, 2008 18:36

yawg dr. pov caiv hluav taws,

hais le kov tus dlaab quas tsi? muab tso rau youtube txhaj le yooj yim
pob. peb tej tug nuav nkees nkees nyeem hab.

On Jul 10, 1:14 am, Pao dex.hmoob.net> wrote:
> Can you post a COMPLETE transcript of his speech?
> I think one needs to read the entire speech before any meaningful
> comment can be made.
>...
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Jul 9, 2008 18:40

Mej moog noog tau ntawm Hmong-Lao Radio at h-lr.com nub tim 6 lub 7
hli, 2008 nuav xwb mas. Nyob huv, ib ntus yog gvp cov lug.

ms
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: All4One
Date: Jul 10, 2008 07:28

What never cease to amazes me was the fact that...almost every major
Hmong tournaments/new years are use for political reason. Don't Hmong
leaders know the meaning of what a "FESTIVAL" is from a political
gathering? I realized that tournaments provide the public mass, but
who's really going to listen to their speeches when people are more
concern about meeting up with their families and friends? At best, a
few die-hard old men and their women may gather to listen to the empty
words shouted through the microphones in fading hopes. The people
came to enjoy the sun and the company of relatives, NOT to listen to
the past 30 years of failed political effort to overthrow the LPDR.
Frankly, I'm SICK of public events being politcized with the same old
political speeches by the former general. It's...
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: Moobsib
Date: Jul 10, 2008 08:17

Well said, Jim.

Thanks,

ms
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Jul 10, 2008 08:21

to all,

sometimes kev txawj kev ntse, kev nom kev tswv, yog los ntawm "noob"
los thiab. sometimes, it takes dedication and capabilities...and
sometimes it requires killing and force. one thing i dont' like about
hmoob yog qhov facct kws....tus coj ces yuav xav coj mus txog hnub
tuag. tug qhev ces, no matter how capable he is, has very little
chance to coj. going back to when i was 20...kuv hnov vp qhov speech
uas tias "nej leejtwg coj tau...thov tsa tes" 3 years in a row... ces
i realized that moob yeej coj txawv....

tsi tag yuav hais dav dav, muab xav txog kuv tsev neeg kiag
xwb....tamsim no ces...muab cov laus tshem kiag mus ib qhov...they
could still be the backbone of every function, but they can't run the
show...
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: hnubkaj
Date: Jul 10, 2008 08:42

All,
Eat your heart out people - VP will lead until there are no more
followers. Asking him to step down? I hope it's a joke cause it's
actually funny...LOL. Here's a very simple match:
Followers + Money = VP Lead
No Followers + No Money = No VP
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Jul 10, 2008 08:44

hnub...

simply....what you're saying..is that he is not a a leader...a good
leader need not have someone to ask him to step down...nws yeej paub
nws lub zog zoo heev..

yaweh
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Re: Comment on VP's speech at July 4         


Author: zhen
Date: Jul 10, 2008 09:12

tej yam kuv hnov hlob vp hais haus hmong-lao radio twb tsis
'dictatorial' npuam li aib syang no hais es. zoo li syang xav nrhiav
ko tuav loos luag tus laus xwb. hlob vaj pov hais tias peb tau txais
nws tej txiaj ntsim thiaj li tsim tau tej koom haum no xwb twb tsis
txawv dr. yaj dao hais tias nws txhawb nqa lub npe hmoob naj. if
making self-serving statements is 'dictatorial', then america is the
under a dictatoriship rule alright i.e. al gore claiming he created
the information super-highway.

cab cab cab.. ua li cas peb tus me hlob vp tseem siv khob nruas nrov
cuag li mao.ze dong lawm thiab? ntshe hmoob yuav ciaj vaj sai sai po?

if he (aib syang) is speaking as a political pundit, his claims have
no substantial validation.

if he is speaking as a political activist, ces ua li hmoob hais hais
xwb, koj ho sim los coj kiag seb yuav txawv deb npaum li cas xwb
as...

On Jul 10, 3:21 pm, tsujsuadl...@hotmail.com wrote:
> to all,
>
> sometimes kev txawj kev ntse, kev nom kev tswv, yog los ntawm "noob"
> los thiab. sometimes, it takes dedication and capabilities...and...
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