Tony,

I'm not sure if you are a Christian or not, but you appear to have a
very limited understanding of the Christian faith, less about the
Christian God.

What do you mean "holy". Who sets the criteria of what "holy" is?
The church?

If "God demand man to be holy" then all men are doomed. Even priests
who have pledged their lives to God are far from being "holy". Are
you saying the being simply "lawb dab", one is holy?

Ob yawm, uatsaug kws meb tseem faib meb lub tswvyim tuaj hab. Txawm
peb pauv tswvyim tsu dlho los nwg tsi ua lecaag.

Nyob zoo meb os.

tony

tej peb has nuav tsi yog tswvyim...tej peb has nuav yeej muaj
tseeb...kuv cov lug...so far, no christain on earth has been able to
asnwer..tsi yog koj xwb so don't feel bad. qhov tseeb tes poob lug
rua ntawm "blind faith"..in any religion, if you have no blind faith,
then you will not believe in it. in your case, the blind faith is so
great that you are ignoring the "same" reasoning in hmong. the naive
part is that you hve no blind faith in hmong...and now, after you are
converted, this blind faith suddenly appear and you seem to loose all
logical reasoning in any other religion...its kinda hypocritical if
you asked me.

yaweh

Tsujsua and Tony,

The essence of "faith" is that one believes even in the absence of
proof. Because there are no definitive proof in any religion, the
fanatics will defend their position even at the cost of their lives.
For this reason, there can never be a winning or losing side in a
religious debate.

Because not one religion is the only way and not not one religion is
the only "good" religion, we should all try to understand one another
as human beings. Live and let live. We should honor one another's
right to exist, although we do not share the same faith.

tsuaj, paab koj tu-sab lau. Koj yuavtau sibzug has kuas moob, cov coj
dlaab, lawb dlaab, tsi ua dlaabtsi le, kuas puab lug txhawb zug rua
koj lub tswv yim kws ceev qhov tseeb. Tsi taag le ntawd, koj yuav tau
rau-sab has kuas meskas hab lwm haiv tuabneeg tsi txhob siv lu lug coj
dlaab hab lawb dlaab ntawd. Ca koj tuableeg has xwb txhajle tseem
moob ov. Koj puas nyam cov lug nuav? Tsi txhawb los chim, ca kuv
txhawb koj le nuav nawb. Hahaha! txausluag tag, tsuj tuableeg txhajle
muaj qhovmuag pum hab txhajle muaj txuj kevntseeg xwb. Lwm ces taag
le lawm os.

tony...

"The essence of "faith" is that one believes even in the absence of
proof....Because not one religion is the only way and not not one
religion is the only "good" religion, we should all try to understand
one another as human beings. "

koj twb paub li no...cas koj tseem convert thiab? do you see where
you make no sense to me? zoo li koj dag koj tus kheej xwb.... yes,
you are correct...now apply it. why must you be converted to know
that?

as for what i said...qha kuv seb..los twg yog lus kuv has phiv....yog
tas koj qha tsi tau, today you are the true hypocrit...

yaweh

tony..

as for your smart comment about "redefinining" hmong terms based on
what you learned from christainity...and me correcting you...but
failed because koj ruag heev....

my only answer to you is....it is what it is...not how you define it
through bias view from outside. if you can't understand this, how is
it possible that you even know what religion is? thats soemthing for
you to learn...and get the true meaning of any religion..not how you
interpret things through outside influcences...

yaweh

Kuv tua twm rua koj caab xwb los nim txais pisnkaus lawm. Qhov ntawd
twb plovmeej lawm mas.

Tony...

Has lug ruam le koj tes yuav tau txais txhaj li muaj lug tham pem
muas...puas yog ma? Tsi muaj leejtwg qha koj tes koj yuav ua nam
tuabneeg ruam moog ib txhis le..puas yog? Zoo yog kuv hlub koj 2 lub
qhov muag es txhaj le has kuv cov lug rua koj. Kawg koj tug vaajtswv
tub tsi qha koj tej kws kuv qha na...koj moog church tau ntev le nuav
es koj tub tseem tsi tau paub le ne....

yaweh