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Author: beemouachaofabeemouachaofa Date: Jul 23, 2008 16:10
Peb ua neeg nyob hau niajteb no. Peb nyob muaj kwv muaj tij, muaj viv
muaj ncau thiab muaj neej tsas. Peb txoj kev sib hlub los ntawm peb
niam, peb txiv, thiab cov txheeb ze yua pov tsis tau tseg yooj yim lis
neeg xav.
Thaum peb tuaj lawm. Txawm yua yog believer or non-believer peb txoj
kev sibhlub ntawm noob neej yeej yua tso tsis tau twj ywm cia. Kev hu
muaj phauj, txiv dablaug, niamtais, and yuam txiv yeej yua tsum muaj
ib yam nkau rau tus neeg ntseeg thiab tsis tau ntseeg.
Vajswv txoj lug hais cia tia kom peb ib leeg hlub ib leeg thiab kom
tus thawj coj ntawm cov ntseeg ua kom cov tsis tau ntseeg hwm nws ib
yam lis cov twb ntseeg lawm.
Yog peb ua raw lis vajtswv xoj lug hais los lawm sawm no ces peb yeej
yua tsum sib hlub thiab nyob tau uake thiaj yua tsis plam peb lub
nstov nyuj pov tseg. Txoj kev hu cov close relative no tsis yog Hmoob
xwb. Everyone in this world has the same practice.
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Author: tsujsuadluagtsujsuadluag Date: Jul 23, 2008 20:16
Bee..
Tejzaum koj yuav paub lawm..temsis cia kuv muab clarify rau koj thiab
ib tsoom phoojywg sawvdaws regarding kev "hu" tuaj tua nyuj. Keep in
mind that marriages and deaths are "inter-connected." For mong, it
has to do with kev sis hlub, sis ntoj sis thuv...temsis, in essence,
it is more than that regarding tus nyuj uas tua ntawd. Kev hu cov
txheeb no, tsi yog lam tau lam hu...yeej yog hu raws caj ceg...tsom
kab tsom kev hu.
Thaum yus mus yuav luag ib tus ntxhais lawm....as dowry lawd muab
"nyuj phij tsab, neeg phij cuam..." The meaning behind "nyuj phij
tsab neeg phij cuam" kuj tsi muaj dabtsi tseem ceeb...temsis the
"message/nonverbal promise" is taht when the "bride dies"....dablaug
yuav tuaj tua tus nyuj uas niam txiv muab no...AND NO ONE ELSE...AND
IT HAS TO BE DONE...VIM TIAS THE PURPOSE OF NYUJ PHIJ TSAB NEEG PHIJ
IS SUCH.
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Author: tzexaleetzexalee Date: Jul 24, 2008 06:36
> Bee..
>
> Tejzaum koj yuav paub lawm..temsis cia kuv muab clarify rau koj thiab
> ib tsoom phoojywg sawvdaws regarding kev "hu" tuaj tua nyuj. Keep in
> mind that marriages and deaths are "inter-connected." For mong, it
> has to do with kev sis hlub, sis ntoj sis thuv...temsis, in essence,
> it is more than that regarding tus nyuj uas tua ntawd. Kev hu cov
> txheeb no, tsi yog lam tau lam hu...yeej yog hu raws caj ceg...tsom
> kab tsom kev hu.
>
> Thaum yus mus yuav luag ib tus ntxhais lawm....as dowry lawd muab
> "nyuj phij tsab, neeg phij cuam..." The meaning behind "nyuj phij
> tsab neeg phij cuam" kuj tsi muaj dabtsi tseem ceeb...temsis the
> "message/nonverbal promise" is taht when the "bride dies"....dablaug
> yuav tuaj tua tus nyuj uas niam txiv muab no...AND NO ONE ELSE...AND
> IT HAS TO BE DONE...VIM TIAS THE PURPOSE OF NYUJ PHIJ TSAB NEEG PHIJ
> IS SUCH.
>
> with this in mind, cov uas tsi "hu" cov qhua tuaj tua los kuj tsi ua ...
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Author: tsujsuadluagtsujsuadluag Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:09
Txawj...
ua neej nyob, yog tas tsi paub hauv paug hauv ntsis tes, yuav ua tu
caaj tu ceg...tsi muaj hauv paug hauv ntsis. kuv ho kuj tsi paub tias
xyov yuav ntau li cas thiab tiag laiv....
what really bothers me is the fact that some people lam ua tu caj tu
ceg tiag tiag li. thaum lawd muab "nyuj phij tsab neeg phij cuam"
mas..nim zoo siab log tias "ua tsaug ov...niam ov....yuav coj nyuj
phij tsab neeg phij cuam mus cib cuab vij zeej....YUAV ROV TUAJ THUV
NIAM TXIV"...temsis thaum tuag lawm, hos hais tias "OH....PEB COJ
TXAWV LAWM....PEB TSI UA TEJ KOD LAWM..." ua cas ho tsi hais tias
"oh...thov xob muab...peb tsi yuav....lwm nub peb yeej tsi kam hu nej
li...thov xob muab...txhaum vajtswv lawm....!!!!" yog ua li no
mas..thiaj li ncaj tiag tiag ov..
yaweh
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Author: Hmong-LaoHmong-Lao Date: Jul 24, 2008 11:37
Phoojywg Tsujsuadluag,
Koj twb yog tus paub es ua li cas ho hais li ko ua rau peb rov tsis to
taub lawm thiab. Tam li qhov kuv to taub mas "nyuj phij cab nees phij
cuam" ib nyuag txawv zo "lub ncauj tsiag". Nyuj phij cab nees phij
cuam mas yog ib lo lus hais dav dav uas sua tau txhuam yam muab phij
cuam rau tus ntxhais. Hos lub ncauj tsiag mas thiaj yog li koj hais
nawb, muab phij cuam rau tus ntxhais coj mus chiv peev ua neej, tabsis
yog tus ntxhais puv 120 xyoo mas yuav tsum muab muas kom tau ib tug
tsiaj (nyuj) los tua rau nws, thiab hu txiv dab laug tuaj ntaus tus
nyuj ntawd.
Tabsis txawm cov uas mus coj kev cai tshiab es lawv tsis hu txiv dab
laug tuaj ntaus nyuj lawm los lawv yeej tua nyuj ua zaub tib yam
nkaus. Qhov no ces yeej xam tau hais tias yog lub ncauj tsiag lawm.
Dhau li ntawd, vim txoj kev cai tshiab txawv zog kev cai qub lawm ces
lub ncuaj tsiag, tsuas xam hais tias yog ib qho nyiaj coj mus chiv
peev ua neej lawm xwb. Yog li ntawd, cov uas coj kev cai tshiab uas
lawv ho muab nyiaj ntaus lub ncauj tsiag lossis txais lub ncauj tsiag
los yeej seem kev seem cai kawg lawm.
HL
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Author: tsujsuadluagtsujsuadluag Date: Jul 24, 2008 15:08
HL
nws txawv mas...nyuj phij tsab neeg phij cuam tsi yog lub ncauj
tsiag..temsis lub ncauj tsiag yog nyuj phij tsab neeg phij cuam.
similar to a square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square.
lub ncauj tsiag is the most important thing in "nyuj phij tsab neeg
phij cuam".. In laos, niam tais yawm txiv yeej muab ib niag tsiaj ciaj
ciaj li...temsis feem ntau muab nyiaj ntaus xwb vim tsi muaj tsiaj
ciaj......when i said "nyuj phij tsab neeg phij cuam"...i'm only
referring to the "ncauj tsiag" because it is the most important thing
in cov khoom phij cuam ntawd. in essence, it is tus tsiaj no that
binds marriage and death rituals together.
lawd yeej tua nyuj kawg...temsis what i'm saying is that lawd tsi
"honor" tus uas muab tus nyuj ntawm lawm. in other word, the purpose
of tus nyuj ntawd yog lawd twb yuav vam tuaj tua ntag....temsis thaum
kawg, lawd hos tsi hu...qhov no yuav zoo li cas? KUJ XOB YUAV THAUM
LAWD MUAB DURING LUB WEDDING...
yaweh
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