Re: As Tensions Mount for Forced Return to Laos,Fire Ravages Hmong Refugee Camp in Northern Thailand (photos)
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Re: As Tensions Mount for Forced Return to Laos,Fire Ravages Hmong Refugee Camp in Northern Thailand (photos)         

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Author: ເຄຣຊີ້ແລຣີ້
Date: Jun 4, 2008 14:27

On Jun 3, 5:30 pm, Hmong-Lao hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I quote myself again, "Why are these dumbasses setting fire to the
>> huts where women and kids need to sleep under in the hot or wet
>> evenings?  Why don't they just set fire on themselves and leave the
>> huts for women and kids to sleep in?  Dumbasses."
>
>> Hmong-Lao my friend, please re-read what I wrote above.  No where in
>> what I wrote did I name the victims "dumb ass".  Those who burned the
>> huts are dumbasses whoever they are.
>
>> Your friend,
>> Larry
>
> My friend Larry,
> Thanks for the clarification. Without your clarifications, most people
> would understand that your word "dumpasses" implies to the fathers of
> the kids or the husbands of the women, is it? We should realize that
> if the victims are the kids and women then their fathers or husbands
> are victims as well.
>
> While it is hard to believe that the LPDR agents would set fire to
> burn down these huts to bring Hmong back home, it is also hard to
> believe that these poor husbands and fathers would burn their own huts
> and belongings so they can stay in the camp. In such case, we can't
> simply point fingers to anybody until the bad guy(s) are caught.
>
> HL

You are welcome HL.

According to MSF (Mdeicine Sana Frontiers - Doctor's Without Borders):

"Did the tensions continue to build in the camp?
On Friday, before the fire started, the situation was highly explosive
and we really thought that things were going to get out of control.
Thousands of refugees destroyed the fence and moved out of the camp
protesting in front of the military, some of the refugees were hiding
knives in order to get ready for a confrontation with the Thai
military. The Thai military remained calm and did not respond to the
provocation. Otherwise, it would have been really chaotic.

We do not know who set the fire, but we know that most of the refugees
had the chance to collect their main belonging before going away from
the burning houses. Nobody was injured. In all, about 850 houses out
of 1,400 were completely destroyed as well as the surrounding latrines
and some of the piping for the water system."

"Two people threatened to kill themselves and their family "

------------------------------------------------------------------------

MSF saids that the Hmongs refugees "destroyed the fence and moved out
of the camp " "some of the refugees were hiding knives" "refugees
had the chance to collect their main belonging before going away from
the burning houses. Nobody was injured." "The Thai military remained
calm and did not respond to the provocation."

Hmmm... The refugees destroyed the fence and moved out of the camps
with their main belongings BEFORE the fire. Hmmmm,,, They were
hiding knives... Hmmm... The Thai military remained calm. Hmmmmmm...

I'm not poiting fingers, but the MSF seam to be accusing the Hmongs of
setting the fires and provoking the Thai military. Suspicious to say
the least.

MSF, "Two people threatened to kill themselves and their family " Now,
that's just stupid.

Your friend,
Larry
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