Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?
  Home FAQ Contact Sign in
soc.culture.hmong only
 
Advanced search
POPULAR GROUPS

more...

soc.culture.hmong Profile…
 Up
Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: Moobthaibteb Moobtwmzeej
Date: Apr 1, 2008 09:28

I have a situation that would like to know more on how to handle it.
If I lease a property and the lease contract stated that the lease
will automatically be extend on a month to month basis after the
expiration of the initial lease term unless either party provides
written notice not less than 30 days prior to the next rent due date
of their intent not to extend the lease term. Before the lease
actually up, the landlord asked me verbally what I would like to do,
whether I want to move out or buy his place because he intended to
sell the place once the lease expired. I told him let me think about
it first and will informed him of my decision. The landlord asked
while I think about it if he could go ahead and show the place for a
prospective buyer on that very same day, which I did let him and he
showed it to a client of his about five to ten minutes later after he
first talked to me about his intention. This happened last weekend.
I've found a new place now and verbally informed the landlord of my
intention to move out by this weekend, he then told me that I've
violate my contract by not providing a written notice of at least 30
days ahead of time first. Since I'm only doing exactly the same thing
that the landlord was doing, verbally informing each other, and he did
it first, am I still obligate to the term as written in the contract? ...
Show full article (1.63Kb)
12 Comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: kwvtij
Date: Apr 1, 2008 10:38

Moob Lajleeb-- i am not a lawyer, but to my knowledge, yes, you will
be violating the contract if you move out. remember that buyer and
and renter are two different things. the landlord can show or sell
the place to anyone anytime regardless of your lease contract. the
only violation of the landlord would be if these two things occurred.
(1) the place is bought and the new landlord does not honor your
current contact that you signed with the previous landlord before its
expiration date or (2) the landlord rent your place to someone else
or kick you out before your notification of termination of the leave.

there is one more thing though. i think they call it, "the first
refusal to buy" clause. if your contact has this clause, that means
you have the right to be the first to buy or refuse to buy the place.
the landlord cannot show or sell it to anyone before your notification
of refusal to buy. but i don't think your contract has this clause.
i believe only commercial rentals have it.
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: listhoj1234
Date: Apr 1, 2008 12:16

On Apr 1, 12:38 pm, kwv...@aol.com wrote:
> Moob Lajleeb-- i am not a lawyer, but to my knowledge, yes, you will
> be violating the contract if you move out.  remember that buyer and
> and renter are two different things.  the landlord can show or sell
> the place to anyone anytime regardless of your lease contract.  the
> only violation of the landlord would be if these two things occurred.
> (1)  the place is bought and the new landlord does not honor your
> current contact that you signed with the previous landlord before its
> expiration date or (2)  the landlord rent your place to someone else
> or kick you out before your notification of termination of the leave.
>
> there is one more thing though.  i think they call it, "the first
> refusal to buy" clause.  if your contact has this clause...
Show full article (1.33Kb)
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: ເຄຣຊີ້ແລຣີ້
Date: Apr 1, 2008 13:22

On Apr 1, 12:28 pm, Moobthaibteb Moobtwmzeej gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have a situation that would like to know more on how to handle it.
> If I lease a property and the lease contract stated that the lease
> will automatically be extend on a month to month basis after the
> expiration of the initial lease term unless either party provides
> written notice not less than 30 days prior to the next rent due date
> of their intent not to extend the lease term.  Before the lease
> actually up, the landlord asked me verbally what I would like to do,
> whether I want to move out or buy his place because he intended to
> sell the place once the lease expired.  I told him let me think about
> it first and will informed him of my decision.  The landlord asked
> while I think about it if he could go ahead and show the place for a
> prospective buyer on that very same day, which I did let him and he
> showed it to a client of his about five to ten minutes later after he
> first talked to me about his intention.  This happened last weekend.
> I've found a new place now and verbally informed the landlord of my
> intention to move out by this weekend, he then told me that I've
> violate my contract by not providing a written notice of at least 30
> days ahead of time first.  Since I'm only doing exactly the same thing ...
Show full article (2.10Kb)
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: Born2beHmong
Date: Apr 1, 2008 18:51

Mhoobthaibteb,

1. if you do not agree with the landlord of showing the place, he at
least should give you 24 hrs noticed b4 he can show the place to any
potential buyer. since you were verbally authorized him to show his
potential buyer. he did not violate any law or the contract between
you two.

2. i did not get what you were saying. did your rental contract
expire? if not, you may be obligated to be responsible for all rents
until the rental contract had expired, whether or not you live in the...
Show full article (1.46Kb)
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: Moobthaibteb Moobtwmzeej
Date: Apr 1, 2008 22:21

Thank you Kwvtij for pointing those real estate procedures out. Yes, he did
verbally told me that I have the first choice to buy, and as I've told him
that I'll let him know of my final answer later. I did told him the next
day that I will be looking for a new place to rent instead of buying his
place. I did however ask how long do I have before I actually have to move
out after the expiration of the lease, just in case I cannot find another
place right away. He said 2 or 3 months. However, my point is that since
we already understood each other that I will not be buying his place and
intend to leave when I find another place to live, since indirectly he is
telling me that either you buy my place or move out, doesn't he also has to
have that in writing of 30 days notice too?...
Show full article (2.45Kb)
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: ເຄຣຊີ້ແລຣີ້
Date: Apr 2, 2008 04:19

On Apr 2, 1:21 am, "Moobthaibteb Moobtwmzeej"
verizon.net> wrote:
> Thank you Kwvtij for pointing those real estate procedures out.  Yes, he did
> verbally told me that I have the first choice to buy, and as I've told him
> that I'll let him know of my final answer later.  I did told him the next
> day that I will be looking for a new place to rent instead of buying his
> place.  I did however ask how long do I have before I actually have to move
> out after the expiration of the lease, just in case I cannot find another
> place right away.  He said 2 or 3 months.  However, my point is that since
> we already understood each other that I will not be buying his place and
> intend to leave when I find another place to live, since indirectly he is
> telling me that either you buy my place or move out, doesn't he also has to
> have that in writing of 30 days notice too?  Now that I've found myself a
> new place, even thought it is much quicker than I originally thought, what
> about his part on having the notice to me in writing?  Again, these events
> happened last week, and my lease term will expire in two weeks, the 15th of
> this month.  Since the lease will be expiring anyway, and I would not have
> gone to look for a new place if he has not told me of his intention to sell
> the place, is there any right that I have in avoiding to pay for any more
> rent? ...
Show full article (1.82Kb)
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: kwvtij
Date: Apr 2, 2008 07:34

mr. larry-- no so quick!

here is what mr. lajleeb stated, "the lease contract stated that the
lease
will automatically be extend on a month to month basis after the
expiration of the initial lease term unless either party provides
written notice not less than 30 days prior to the next rent due
date"

uh.. ha... now that means that mr. lajleeb has to notify the landlord
30 regardless. to get out of the deal, he would have to notify his
landlord today and still have to pay the next month rent April 15th
through May 15th.

mr. lajlee
-- if above statement is written in your contract, then it
is lose-lose situation for you unfortunately. i hope you have not
made a security deposit for the new place that you have found. if you
did, you will lose it too.
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: tsujsuadluag
Date: Apr 2, 2008 08:36

Mtt...

the reply posts are correct...you need to give 30 day notice...

however....brother...take it from me, if he is in such a rush to sell
it, it could be that he is already behind in his payment. with this
in mind, i do not think he will waste the money trying to go after you
for one month of rent. in addition, your deposit will be "deducted"
anyway..regardless if you give the 30 days notice or not (provided
that he is behind in his payment...and he needs the money...he will
find things to deduct)..mostly likely, your deposit will be gone by
the time he check out everything. if you want, take a chance and move
out...i do not thing he will come after you..

yaweh
no comments
Re: Any realtor/lawyer dealing with rental in here?         


Author: vaajmoob
Date: Apr 2, 2008 11:17

moobthaibteb es, tejzag koj tsi paub tabsi kuv yog ib tug naikhu qha
ua yaam zoox hab ho yog ib tug lawyer nyob tsua lub xeev
wisconsin,california,hab muabmisxuamtas (1) koj tug tsw tsev yeej muaj
cais pub lwm tug lug saib lub vaaj lub tsev los hoob koj nyob yog has
tas nwg yuav muag naj tabsu yog xaub xwb nua ces nwg tsi muaj cai yog
has tas koj tsi tau has tas koj yuav tawg (2) qhov kws mej has tas koj
yuav nyob ntxiv los tsi nyob..qhov hov yog he says,you say xwb ces yog
txug lub caij lub nyoog tawg lawm tejzag tug tswv tsev yuav has tas
nwg tsi tau has le tsua koj (3) yog koj tsi ua dlaab tsi le ces pev
has tas koj yuav nyob ib hli ntxiv,yog le hov tug tsw tsev tshaab
evicted tsi tau koj, by state law,nwg yuav txug tau honor koj dlaim
lease yog has tas koj nyob peb lub laab WI,MN,CA naj...
Show full article (2.67Kb)
no comments

RELATED THREADS
SubjectArticles qty Group
A Lawyers Favorite Lawyer Jokesalt.politics.usa ·
1 2