> [exasperated mod note: jeeeez, Jerry... and you no listen, either...
> pls trim.]
>
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1193687702-sch@news.lava.net...

>> No matter what your opinion is of Watada's action,
>> you need to base your judgement on him as a person
>> as to what would make you do what he did if you had
>> the same idea of duty that he has. He is from a
>> family here of very high moral values. His father as
>> chair of the campaign spending commission has gone
>> after a lot of local politicians for their
>> transgressions of the campaign finance law.
>>

>
> We are starting to go around in circles again Alvin.

>
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>

>> [exasperated mod note: jeeeez, Jerry... and you no listen, either...
>> pls trim.]
>>
>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1193687702-sch@news.lava.net...

>

>>> No matter what your opinion is of Watada's action,
>>> you need to base your judgement on him as a person
>>> as to what would make you do what he did if you had
>>> the same idea of duty that he has. He is from a
>>> family here of very high moral values. His father as
>>> chair of the campaign spending commission has gone
>>> after a lot of local politicians for their
>>> transgressions of the campaign finance law.
>>> ...

> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1193794503-sch@news.lava.net...

>>
>> We're now talking about what basis should we make
>> judgements on Watada. It's not enough to just
>> restate your opinion.
>>

>
> Yes, that is what we are talking about, and I am
> arguing that the basis for his argument i.e. that he
> can refuse to go because it is an "illegal" war, is
> as phony as a three dollar bill. He said he is
> willing to go to Yugoslavia, and Afghanistan, but not
> Iraq. Well, if you put the three side by side,
> Afghanistan would top the list of what is an illegal
> war, with Yugoslavia a close second, and Iraq a
> distant third.

>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>

>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1193794503-sch@news.lava.net...

>>>
>>> We're now talking about what basis should we make
>>> judgements on Watada. It's not enough to just
>>> restate your opinion.
>>>

>>
>> Yes, that is what we are talking about, and I am
>> arguing that the basis for his argument i.e. that he
>> can refuse to go because it is an "illegal" war, is
>> as phony as a three dollar bill. He said he is
>> willing to go to Yugoslavia, and Afghanistan, but not
>> Iraq. Well, if you put the three side by side,
>> Afghanistan would top the list of what is an illegal ...

>
>
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1193794503-sch@news.lava.net...

>>
>> On Tue...

> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1193867402-sch@news.lava.net...

>> This only makes sense if Watada thinks that his case
>> is as phony as you think. Of course, he has a
>> different opinion. When people claim he's a coward
>> because of their own personal opinions, it doesn't
>> make sense to me. Let's use some common sense here.
>>

>
> NO!!! Watada's attorneys are using a tactic that
> they think is the best defense that has a chance of
> getting him acuqitted. It may succeed or it may not.
> "If" it succeeds they have done their job and done it
> wel. If it does not succed, they have not.

>
> [mod note: trim quotes, please...]
>
> When will you understand the following:
>
> 1. The war in Iraq is *NOT* and illegal war.

> 2. Watada did not refuse to go because he thinks the
> war is illegal. He thinks it is immoral.
>
> Honu

>
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>

>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1193867402-sch@news.lava.net...

>

>>> This only makes sense if Watada thinks that his case
>>> is as phony as you think. Of course, he has a
>>> different opinion. When people claim he's a coward
>>> because of their own personal opinions, it doesn't
>>> make sense to me. Let's use some common sense here.
>>>

>>
>> NO!!! Watada's attorneys are using a tactic that
>> they think is the best defense that has a chance of
>> getting him acuqitted. It may succeed or it may not.
>> "If" it succeeds they have done their job and done it
>> wel. If it does not succed, they have not. ...

>
> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Hertz_Donut wrote:
>
> [in the interest of good network ettiquette, I will do
> some trimming]

>>
>> [mod note: trim quotes, please...]
>>
>> When will you understand the following:
>>
>> 1. The war in Iraq is *NOT* and illegal war.

>

>> 2. Watada did not refuse to go because he thinks the
>> war is illegal. He thinks it is immoral.
>>
>> Honu

>
> I hardly think that you can read Watada's mind and more ...

>
>
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1193986506-sch@news.lava.net...

>>
>> On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, Hertz_Donut wrote:
>>
>> [in the interest of good network ettiquette, I will do
>> some trimming]

>>>
>>> [mod note: trim quotes, please...]
>>>
>>> When will you understand the following:
>>>
>>> 1. The war in Iraq is *NOT* and illegal war.

>>

>>> 2. Watada did not refuse to go because he thinks the
>>> war is illegal. He thinks it is immoral. ...