>>> OK, Alvin, I'll bite once again. So what are the 10 best and the 10
>>> worst
>>> public schools in Hawaii today? Make sure you cite your source!
Following up my own post here, inasmuch as Alvin has been very, very quiet
the past two days both on the Hawaii school ranking and on the hydro
issues.
Dug around a
bit and came up - thanks to Yvonne Jaramillo Ahearn (
http://localism.com/neighbor/yvonneahearn ) - with
http://www.schooldigger.com/go/HI/schoolrank.aspx
As Yyvonne (who presents the Bolante survey/study earlier in her article) -
points out,
"Another resource,
Schooldigger.com, also has ranking the Hawaii public
shcools /sic/. In this case, they don't use student, teacher and parents
satisfaction scores to affect the rankings. They do use the same
standardized test scores, however."
Be advised that the Schooldigger ranking does not rank all the Hawaii
public
schools together as the Bolante survey/study does, but instead separates
them into three groups within which the relevant schools are ranked -
elementary, middle, and high schools. Click on the appropriate "Quick
links:" on the top right of the page to access the desired group.
Alternatively, click the check mark to the right of "See rankings for:" to
select the desired group, then click on "Dig!"
To address Maren's concerns, in this Schooldigger ranking - as you can
confirm for yourself:
Kaumana Elementary is ranked 102 of 178
De Silva Elementary is ranked 49 of 178
Waiakea Elementary is ranked 99 of 178
Waiakeawaena Elementary is ranked of 98 of 178
I'm afraid that this Schooldigger ranking, being basically a subset of the
Bolante survey/study, does not at all address Alvin's ramblings about the
Newsweek ranking of high schools by AP courses, Roosevelt High School and
the English standard schools of yesteryear, elitism, private schools
(Punahou, Iolani, Kamehameha), football, etc.
I am a bit surprised at the student teacher ratio: throwing out the
outliers
in each category, the study has the following. The rough median is derived
by figuring more or less that school which has about half the schools above
it and about half below it, excluding the outliers.
Elementary school (outlier The Volcano School of Arts & Sciences, 137)
Highest two:
Holomua Elementary (#69) 20.7
Momilani Elementary (#2) 20.3
Lowest two:
Waiahole Elementary (#170) 9.7
Liliuokalani Elementary (#75) 9.6
Rough median:
Haaheo Elementary (#31) 16.1
Middle school
Highest two:
Kaimuki Middle (#2) 18.6
Kapolei Middle (#18) 18.1
Lowest two:
Kohala Middle (#33) 11.9
Jarrett Middle (#12) 10.5
Rough median:
Waipahu Intermediate (#26) 15.9
High school (outlier Kihei Public Charter High, 158)
(outlier Olomana High & Middle, 5.5)
Highest two:
Molokai High (#38) 23.0
Kealakehe High (#30) 20.9
Lowest two:
Pahoa High & Intermediate (#32) 12.6
Kohala High (#29) 11.6
Rough median:
Aiea High (#18) 16.5
Wow! Given these numbers, it is easy to see how the average public school
student teacher ratio in the islands is around 17. Lookit - aside from the
two outliers, nothing higher than 23! When I attended Hilo Intermediate,
Hilo High, and Kaimuki High "way back when" the ratio ran minimally around
the low to mid 30's. And I can vaguely recall one class with something
like
42 students - teacher complained and some kind of adjustment was made.
Need
to dive into the yearbooks and see!
[Did a quick, random count of home room pix - high school in the lower 30s;
intermediate school in the higher 30s]
And given the ever so sharp, taut, precise, and logical engineer mind of
Alvin yet once more displaying for us all here its usual ambiguous,
equivocal, and vague self, allow me to set the record straight so there is
no misunderstanding whatsoever - Alvin misspeaks ("lies" is perhaps a bit
too strong, though just as accurate) when he says "We aren't about to do
another study for you." Alvin did no such thing as to provide for us here
in sch any kind of 2008 ranking study of all Hawaii public schools in any
way, shape, or form - least of all for me. So if and when Alvin does
provide such a study here for us all/me, it will be his first and only -
rather than "another" - one.
[And Alvin - that is a correct quote of what you said, yes? Don't want you
going around falsely accusing me once more of misquoting you.]
