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Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Dec 3, 2006 20:25

In today's advertiser.

The state's technology tax incentives are expensive and have not produced
measurable growth in technology jobs, according to a new report by the state
Tax Review Commission.
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Dec 5, 2006 15:10

On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> In today's advertiser.
>
> The state's technology tax incentives are expensive
> and have not produced measurable growth in technology
> jobs, according to a new report by the state Tax
> Review Commission.

Congradulations Jerry for reading the Advertiser. You
have said in the past that you don't read the Honolulu
papers.

"Measurable" depends on how you measure. Don't know how
the Commission did their measuring, but the state
electrical engineering professional society grew by
about a hundred this past year to about 750. Maybe the
Commission is using data from two years ago.
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Dec 5, 2006 19:25

"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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>
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> In today's advertiser.
>>
>> The state's technology tax incentives are expensive
>> and have not produced measurable growth in technology
>> jobs, according to a new report by the state Tax
>> Review Commission.
>
> Congradulations Jerry for reading the Advertiser. You
> have said in the past that you don't read the Honolulu
> papers.
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Dec 6, 2006 15:05

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1165360200-sch@news.lava.net...
>>
>> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>
>>> In today's advertiser.
>>>
>>> The state's technology tax incentives are expensive
>>> and have not produced measurable growth in
>>> technology jobs, according to a new report by the
>>> state Tax Review Commission.
>>
>> Congradulations Jerry for reading the Advertiser.
>> You have said in the past that you don't read the
>> Honolulu papers.
>
> I read the web sites everyday.
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Dec 6, 2006 19:20

"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1165360200-sch@news.lava.net...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 4 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>>>
>>>> In today's advertiser.
>>>>
>>>> The state's technology tax incentives are expensive
>>>> and have not produced measurable growth in
>>>> technology jobs, according to a new report by the
>>>> state Tax Review Commission.
>>>
>>> Congradulations Jerry for reading the Advertiser.
>>> You have said in the past that you don't read the
>>> Honolulu papers. ...
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Dec 7, 2006 15:15

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1165446302-sch@news.lava.net...
>>> Well, since my major was electronics, I can tell
>>> you that when I graduated, I did not even try to
>>> get a job in Hawaii. The reason is simple. There
>>> are basically only two places to work...
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Dec 7, 2006 19:30

"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
news:1165533302-sch@news.lava.net...
>
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1165446302-sch@news.lava.net...
>
>>>> Well, since my major was electronics, I can tell
>>>> you that when I graduated, I did not even try to
>>>> get a job in Hawaii. The reason is simple. There
>>>> are basically only two places to work, for one of
>>>> the electric utilities and for the military. I
>>>> chose to work in Southern California, because there
>>>> were a whole lot of companies that would hire
>>>> people with my major. As for the number who
>>>> graduate from U of H, I would then want to know, of
>>>> those who did graduate, how many are working in
>>>> Hawaii?
>>> ...
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Dec 8, 2006 19:45

On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1165533302-sch@news.lava.net...
>> For example, a company here that used to be called
>> Adtech had interesting engineering work in a variety
>> of areas. But they would hire at lower rates than
>> the mainland. At the time I heard about this, they
>> were offering new graduates a salary of $45K when
>> these students were also receiving offers of $55K
>> from mainland companies. Also, Adtech seemed short
>> of staff because they worked such long hours.
>
> Which is one reason people do not work in the
> islands...you are confirming what I said.

No... If this is your assumption also, then what is
your question?
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Re: Tech credit called 'substantial drain'         


Author: Jerry Okamura
Date: Dec 11, 2006 21:20

"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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>
> On Fri, 8 Dec 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>
> No... If this is your assumption also, then what is
> your question?

What goes around comes aroung.....let me throw a comment you made about
another conversavtion we had....go back and read what I said.....
>
>> Which is another reason why people do not work in the
>> islands...another confirmation of what I have been
>> trying to say....
>
> No. If you have been trying to say that this is not
> voluntary, then we disagree. If we agree that it is a
> voluntary choice to leave, then what is your problem
> with a purely personal decision?
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