"Alvin E. Toda"
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> On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
>
>> "Alvin E. Toda"
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>>> Bee mites and viruses, Fire ants, and if they get to
>>> Hawaii Africanized Bees and the mosquito virus. In
>>> terms of plants, we have miconia, bunchy top banana
>>> virus, papaya virus. These have all devastated our
>>> agriculture and the environment. People on the
>>> mainland don't worry about them because they already
>>> have them. And don't underestimate the super ferry
>>> for spreading the brown tree snake when it gets to
>>> the islands.
>>
>> All of which can be easily mitigated at the ports.
>> The rampant paranoia that many have about the
>> so-called "invasive species" is unfounded. All the
>> vectors you mention above have been found in airports
>> and in aircraft...no form of interisland
>> transportation is immune. What about Matson? They
>> ship between islands every day. Manyh of the vectors
>> you mentioned have been found in their containers.
>> By your paranoid logic. shouldn't we stop all
>> interisland shipping?
>
> Wrong.
Citation? (Not fear mongering...)
All of which have been spread throughout the
> continent and even to an isolated area such as
> Australia and New Zealand.
Citation?
We had thought that the bee
> mites might not come to Hawaii and we could continue to
> sell disease free bees to the mainland, but looks like
> the state policy of allowing Australia and New Zealand
> to ship bees through Hawaii have backfired.
What does that have to do with the Super Ferry, other than you will
grasp at
any straw to try and support your failing position?
After many
> years of warning and even volunteers checking the cargo
> when they are called prior to transfering planes, the
> mites have come to Hawaii.
>
So...the answer would be to stop bringing *ANYTHING* into the islands
from
*ANYWHERE*. I guess you would be foolish enough to want to live in that
world.
> An inspector helps but not a super ferry employee as an
> inspector.
An inspector is an inspector....again, your extreme prejudice clouds
your
every thought process.
There is no incentive for him/her to halt
> the ferry operation to remove a potentially hazardous
> car.
Why do you believe that? You believe that state laws and health
regulations
are not incentive enough? That he could lose his job or cause the
company
irreparable damage if he didn't do his job properly? Again, your
rabid hate
of the Super Ferry clouds your judgement.
And it is difficult to compare barg services that
> ship cars,
Only in your mind
because Matson for example requires that
> nothing be left in the car.
But the cars often ship with items inside...I know, I have shipped
several
vehicles over the years, as well as picked up vehicles shipped from
other
islands. They didn't undergo any agricultural inspections, either.
Again,.
you make no sense.
> you have cleaned it out including the trunk. And then,
> they and Young Brothers still have state inspectors to
> make sure.
>
I see that you have never shipped a vehicle. You are simply "asked" if
there is anything in the vehicle. There is no physical inspection of the
vehicle, at least not the several that I have shipped. You sign the
form,
give them the keys, and go on your way. But that is your "Grand
Protection"
dream....
> The super ferry doesn't intend to have inspectors from
> the state who can disrupt their operations.
Again, you have no real idea of what their intentions are. They may be
required to have state inspectors, and they will do as poor a job as a
privately contracted inspector.
Nor do they
> intend to impound or remove potential infectious
> material.
Citation?
Mainland ferry operations don't worry about
> these things because they are already spread arround.
Citation?
> It's kind of a common sense kind of thing.
Then you are way out of your league here. Your rabid opposition to the
Ferry destroys any hope you have at looking at this issue with common
sense.
Yet Lingle
> and her govt have purposely violated the law in
> collusion with the super ferry.
You keep saying that, yet offer no proof of your claims. You need to
"put
up or shut up". You need to provide specific evidence that any laws
have
been violated. Until then, you are merely making an ass of yourself...
Some legal action
> should be taken on them.
In what way? No laws have been broken....
Don't know why the state
> legislature is so soft on them except that they don't
> want to be labeled as anti-ferry.
Because maybe they can think rationally and are not puppets of the
extreme
left like you are?
Honu
