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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Nov 14, 2007 05:30
It's kind of ominous waiting for the court case in
Cardoza's court to make progress... Meanwhile
Star-Bulletin Honolulu Lite columnist Memminger is
making lite of it with a rumor that one of the Kauai
leaders Albertini saying that it isn't worth 10 years
in prison to stop the ferry. Memminger, if he's trying
to be another Andy Rooney, isn't very funny. But it's
too bad that it has come to thi
-- where people have to
break the law to get some justice.
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Author: acne_is_incurableacne_is_incurable Date: Nov 14, 2007 22:05
This afternoon, Cardoza lifted the injunction. What the ferry will
leave in its wake is anyone's guess. May it be beneficial to the
people, and at least harmless to the marine life. Try, you like. No
like, return. As long as the giant ship does not do irreparable harm.
That is how I read the judge's decision. We need a testing period for
the environmental impact to be honestly assessed.
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Author: Hertz DonutHertz Donut Date: Nov 15, 2007 08:10
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> This afternoon, Cardoza lifted the injunction. What the ferry will
> leave in its wake is anyone's guess. May it be beneficial to the
> people, and at least harmless to the marine life. Try, you like. No
> like, return. As long as the giant ship does not do irreparable harm.
> That is how I read the judge's decision. We need a testing period for
> the environmental impact to be honestly assessed.
>
What's the alternative? Hawaii is struggling under the weight of an archaic
transportation system. Why should the only option for interisland travel be
air travel? I will enjoy being able to drive my car onto the Super Ferry,
and then driving around Maui. No need to waste money on a rental car that
usually does not suit my needs.
Honu
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Nov 15, 2007 13:40
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
> hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1195106701-sch@news.lava.net...>>
>> This afternoon, Cardoza lifted the injunction. What
>> the ferry will leave in its wake is anyone's guess...
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Author: Hertz DonutHertz Donut Date: Nov 15, 2007 22:25
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Nov 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
>
>> hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1195106701-sch@news.lava.net...>>>
>>> This afternoon, Cardoza lifted the injunction. What
>>> the ferry will leave in its wake is anyone's guess.
>>> May it be beneficial to the people, and at least
>>> harmless to the marine life. Try, you like. No like,
>>> return. As long as the giant ship does not do
>>> irreparable harm. That is how I read the judge's
>>> decision. We need a testing period for the
>>> environmental impact to be honestly assessed.
>>>
>>
>> What's the alternative? Hawaii is struggling under
>> the weight of an archaic transportation system. Why ...
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Nov 16, 2007 12:05
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1195162801-sch@news.lava.net...>>
>> You're either for or against the environment in this
>> case. Irreparable damage does harm to the public
>> interest. I don't see anyone saying that they'll pay
>> to that. Lingle should be impeached for ignoring the
>> law.
>>
>
> I have lived in Alaska...the same type of Ferry
> operates there with no impact on the environment.
>
> I lived in the Mediterranean, where the same type of
> Ferry operates. No impact on the environment there.
>
> What "irreparable damage to the public interest" are
> you referring to?
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Author: Jerry OkamuraJerry Okamura Date: Nov 16, 2007 12:10
"Hertz Donut" outthere.net> wrote in message
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> I have lived in Alaska...the same type of Ferry operates there with no
> impact on the environment.
Good point, lots of whales in Alaska... I wonder where else ferries operate
where there are a lot of whales?
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Author: Hertz DonutHertz Donut Date: Nov 16, 2007 19:20
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
>
>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
>> news:1195162801-sch@news.lava.net...>>>
>>> You're either for or against the environment in this
>>> case. Irreparable damage does harm to the public
>>> interest. I don't see anyone saying that they'll pay
>>> to that. Lingle should be impeached for ignoring the
>>> law.
>>>
>>
>> I have lived in Alaska...the same type of Ferry
>> operates there with no impact on the environment.
>>
>> I lived in the Mediterranean, where the same type of
>> Ferry operates. No impact on the environment there. ...
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Author: Niu-boyNiu-boy Date: Nov 18, 2007 13:30
On Nov 15, 8:10 am, "Hertz Donut" outthere.net> wrote:> hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:1195106701-sch@news.lava.net...
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>
>>> This afternoon, Cardoza lifted the injunction. What the ferry will
>> leave in its wake is anyone's guess. May it be beneficial to the
>> people, and at least harmless to the marine life. Try, you like. No
>> like, return. As long as the giant ship does not do irreparable harm.
>> That is how I read the judge's decision. We need a testing period for
>> the environmental impact to be honestly assessed.
>
> What's the alternative? Hawaii is struggling under the weight of an archaic
> transportation system. Why should the only option for interisland travel be
> air travel? I will enjoy being able to drive my car onto the Super Ferry,
> and then driving around Maui. No need to waste money on a rental car that
> usually does not suit my needs.
> ...
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Nov 18, 2007 13:30
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1195243501-sch@news.lava.net...>> Bee mites and viruses, Fire ants, and if they get to
>> Hawaii Africanized Bees and the mosquito virus. In
>> terms of plants, we have miconia, bunchy top banana
>> virus, papaya virus. These have...
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