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Author: Brad EckertBrad Eckert Date: Jul 11, 2006 07:55
Jerry Avins wrote:
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> That's still not an answer that means much to me. It's like a doctor
> telling someone that he can't sleep that he has insomnia. In what way
> does someone over forty unable to distinguish what a whippersnapper can?
> You ruled out loss of highs as the deficiency; what else have I lost?
One of the cell phone ring tones popular with kids these days uses high
frequencies that most adults can't hear. When I was 14 or so I could
hear up to about 13 kHz. Now I top out at 8 kHz. The good part is that
loud noises don't bother me as much as they used to.
With the DSP power available these days, perhaps someone will find a
way to map the high components of music to lower octaves in a way that
sounds good.
--Brad
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Date: Mar 24, 2007 14:44
Jeff Fox ultratechnology.com> wrote:> Andrew Haley wrote:
> I would like to than William for not reposting the most offensive of
> posts.
> I wish people would not call for reposting of offensive posts, it
> is an offensive tactic. Why do people want to turn these threads
> into that?
Lest anyone forget how this digression started, you posted this
comment in this thread:
> Jeff Fox ultratechnology.com> wrote:>> so many people in c.l.f say that they know so much about Forth that
>> they know that the inventor of Forth isn't doing Forth, doesn't
>> understand Forth, doesn't know what Forth word is, doesn't know what
>> a stack is, and simply doesn't understand programming or computers.
> If I wanted to see nastiness and name calling again I would have
> responeded with posting it again as you called for that instead of
> discussions of programming.
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Aug 2, 2006 18:15
> Dakine wah in dakine middle-east is humbug. Ah brah,
> you try dakine peace instead of dakine bus up your
> face between dakine jew and dakine muslim. Shaka brah
> soldiers. ah brah, I'm so hungry, i go caw-caw in
> dakine Zippys now and I go to my priends house and
> talk story. Ah brah, my priend's head is all bus up
> with dakine ice. I call dakine Dog and he go get
> them.
They no have aloha. Maybe, if they go stay he'a, den
they make love, not bus up each other.
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Author: j2thomasj2thomas Date: Jul 14, 2006 22:56
Jeff Fox wrote:
> All of your arguemnts end up with your claiming that a 2000%%%%
> decrease in efficiency is always a good thing to you. ok.
"Never attribute to malice what can be more easily explained by
stupidity."
Jeff, you have a lot of experience at something I have very little
experience with. I've been trying to follow your reasoning. When I get
it wrong, that's an opportunity for you to say what you actually mean.
Maybe somebody else will understand it when it gets laid out carefully.
You seem to think I'm opposing you when I pay attention to you. I tell
you what I don't understand and you think I'm saying you're wrong.
Apart from your rancor I think I have learned some things from you. It
sounds like Chuck really has found a way to radically simplify Forth.
You pointed out the branching system that eliminates ELSE and also
makes it *easier* to optimise tail-recursion. Entirely apart from the
question whether it's easier to program in after you get used to it, or
easier to test, or easier to write simple code in, it *is* a simpler
Forth with less baggage in the internals.
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Author: Gerard FryerGerard Fryer Date: Aug 7, 2006 05:45
On 2006-08-05 15:20:13 -1000, as312@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John W. Bienko) said:
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> Forbes Magazine reports..
> It takes the equivalent of 1.8 gallons of oil to make
> one gallon of ethanol when you consider the oil required
> for planting, harvesting, transporting and processing
> the vegetation.
> One gallon of ethanol has only 63% of the energy of one
> gallon of gasoline.
> This information is vital in the decision-making re
> ethanol production programs.
Make it from corn or sugar beet and Forbes may be right. Make if from
sugar cane and the numbers are different. Brasil has managed to reduce
its dependence on oil by substituting ethanol.
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Aug 7, 2006 05:45
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006, John W. Bienko wrote:
> Forbes Magazine reports.. It takes the equivalent of
> 1.8 gallons of oil to make one gallon of ethanol when
> you consider the oil required for planting,
> harvesting, transporting and processing the
> vegetation. One gallon of ethanol has only 63% of the
> energy of one gallon of gasoline. This information is
> vital in the decision-making re ethanol production
> programs.
That's probably why corn might not be too good a crop
to produce ethanol. IIRC I recall that some research is
being done to convert the courstalks to ethanol.
Similar to research in Hawaii to convert bagasse (or
sugar cane stalks) to ethanol. Perhaps this might be
even applicable to recycled newspaper as a cellulose
source in the future?
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Aug 7, 2006 23:55
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> "Gerard Fryer" NUTShawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:1154954714-sch@news.lava.net...>>
>> On 2006-08-05 15:20:13 -1000, as312@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John W. Bienko)
>> said:
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Aug 7, 2006 23:55
On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Gerard Fryer wrote:
> On 2006-08-05 15:20:13 -1000, as312@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John W. Bienko) said:
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>>
>> Forbes Magazine reports..
>> It takes the equivalent of 1.8 gallons of oil to
>> make one gallon of ethanol when you consider the oil
>> required for planting, harvesting, transporting and
>> processing the vegetation. One gallon of ethanol has
>> only 63% of the energy of one gallon of gasoline.
>> This information is vital in the decision-making re
>> ethanol production programs.
>
> Make it from corn or sugar beet and Forbes may be
> right. Make if from sugar cane and the numbers are
> different. Brasil has managed to reduce its
> dependence on oil by substituting ethanol.
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Author: Jeff FoxJeff Fox Date: Jul 12, 2006 21:08
Andrew Haley wrote:
> Please provide an example of someone in c.l.f. saying that. It might
> be that I missed their posting.
Sorry, I should have said, and it happens so often it is probably
happening in another thread or email right now. ;-)
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Author: John SmithJohn Smith Date: Aug 8, 2006 16:45
John W. Bienko wrote:
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> The decisionmakers of Hawai`i must be advised..
> That the production of one gallon of ethanol REQUIRES
> the input of 1.8 gallons of oil.
> In other words it takes more oil to make less ethanol.
> Therefore it is not cost efficient to manufacture
> ethanol with the technology as it now exists.
>
Have you ever been to Waikiki lately? Might as well talk to the wall.
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