Jerry
unlike you I'm not retired. I'm still working in an employed job
5 days a week (if things go OK, it sometimes gets worse,
and I'm just still getting through one of those phases that
started over a year ago). I not grocery shop for only 2 people
(still getting used to being empty nesters with a kid who
weighed 105 lb when she left and ate most of the food in the
house)
>> you buy an extra bag or two (as Soeren pointed out, plastic bags
>> are NOT outlawed there).
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> You can afford to buy bags that you do not really need, so you can do that.
> But there are people believe it or not that "could" make better use of their
> money, like not have to pay for ANY bags directly. And certainly they would
> prefer not to spend money buying even more bags that they may not have to
> use again.
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>>> extra items, and perhaps, you then make another trip to the market a
>>> day or
>>> two later....a trip that eats up more gasoline that you did not have to
>
>> you take your shopping car out to the car (you're the one who
>> mentioned cars), put it in the trunk or on the back seat or in the
>> truck
>> bed (my truck doesn't have a trunk or much room in the back seat)
>> and put it into bags when you get home.
>
> Yep, great for someone who does not have a busy enough life without the
> additional hassle like me, but absolutely lousy to have to "waste" your
> time, when you are already trying to do too many things in too little time.
>
>>> you saying that EVERYONE who goes to the market even makes a list of the
>>> things they will buy and will only buy those items on the list?
>
>> not necessarily, that's why you take the extra bags.
>
> And "if" you did not bring extra bags, then you have to make another trip,
> requiring even more time shopping, and using even more gasoline? And "if"
> that market is not close to your home......
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>>>> Here in Europe plastic bags are *not* outlawed.
>>>> However customers *must* pay for them (20 cent or so per bag).
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>>>> So everyone just brings their cotton bags or baskets.
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> I have no objection to that....
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>>> Question. In Europe, where does the average food buyer buy their
>>> food? Do
>>> they have the poliferation of super markets that the US has?
>
>> yes. Supermarkets and farmers markets.
>> France may still have lots of little stores. They still exist in
>> Germany, but not like they used to.
>> And we have a meat store in Hilo too. And a bakery
>> (probably more than one). And, here in Hilo some places started
>> giving you rebates for re-used plastic bags for years already.
>> I tend to carry a bag of bags in my truck. They're mixed cotton
>> and plastic bags these days.
>
>> As for the size of the cotton bags: nobody said you have to
>> buy them. Make your own and make them the size you want
>> to carry. Baskets probably wouldn't last in Hilo, it's too wet.
>
> Not everyone knows how to sew. I would suspect just about every man does
> not know how to sew, and they do shop for food, especially if they are
> single. And not every woman knows how to sew as well. And don't you need
> a sewing machine to even sew?
