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Author: Jerry OkamuraJerry Okamura Date: Feb 27, 2008 11:35
Senator Inouye made a comment concerning Barak, i.e. "but he went to
Punahu
and that was not a school for the improvished." "To suggest that
Punahou
maybe set his flie palnt in place, I find it very interesting". He has
apparently apologized for the statement he made. My question is, why
should
he apologize for the statement he made? My second question, if that
is how
he feels, are we not better off knowing what he believes?
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Feb 27, 2008 14:25
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> Senator Inouye made a comment concerning Barak, i.e.
> "but he went to Punahu and that was not a school for
> the improvished." "To suggest that Punahou maybe set
> his flie palnt in place, I find it very interesting".
> He has apparently apologized for the statement he
> made. My question is, why should he apologize for
> the statement he made? My second question, if that
> is how he feels, are we not better off knowing what
> he believes?
He apologized for his choice of words. We know what he
said. But when he said what he said, he gave the
impression that Punahou is elitist-- not something that
alumni and students would be happy to hear.
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Author: Jerry OkamuraJerry Okamura Date: Feb 27, 2008 18:40
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> Senator Inouye made a comment concerning Barak, i.e.
>> "but he went to Punahu and that was not a school for
>> the improvished." "To suggest that Punahou maybe set
>> his flie palnt in place, I find it very interesting".
>> He has apparently apologized for the statement he
>> made. My question is, why should he apologize for
>> the statement he made? My second question, if that
>> is how he feels, are we not better off knowing what
>> he believes?
>
> He apologized for his choice of words. We know what he
> said. But when he said what he said, he gave the
> impression that Punahou is elitist-- not something that
> alumni and students would be happy to hear.
> ...
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Author: Kay CeeKay Cee Date: Feb 27, 2008 18:40
On Feb 27, 11:35 am, "Jerry Okamura" hawaii.rr.com>
wrote:> Senator Inouye made a comment concerning Barak, i.e. "but he went
> to
> Punahu
> and that was not a school for the improvished." "To suggest that
>
> Punahou
> maybe set his flie palnt in place, I find it very interesting".
> He has
> apparently apologized for the statement he made. My question is,
> why
> should
> he apologize for the statement he made? My second question, if
> that
> is how
> he feels, are we not better off knowing what he believes?
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Feb 29, 2008 08:30
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> "Kay Cee" comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1204166401-sch@news.lava.net...
>>> Punahou does offers a few programs for families with
>> financial needs (even back then.) The good senator
>> apologized because he doesn't want to be stuck in
>> right field when Obama becomes president.
>
> Do you really believe that ANY senior Senator from
> ANY state is going to suffer greatly if THYEY DO NOT
> apologize?
Quite true. In fact, Obama might have to deal with Sen
Inouye as the chairperson of the committees he sits on.
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Feb 29, 2008 08:30
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jerry Okamura wrote:
> That is pretty obvious [that you get that impression
> from what Inouye said], but I doubt if there are many
> who live in the islands that don't believe [Punahou
> Schools] are an "elist" school.
Everybody believes that their school is special. But it
doesn't mean that they think that they are better
persons than anybody else. They can respect other
non-Punahou students while believing that their own
students are the best here, or mostly come from the
upper or professional social classes here in town.
It's when they believe that everyone there is that way
that they get into the grey area of elitism. Of course,
not all students are like that, or feel like that. So
Inouye was being prudent by apologising for his choice
of words.
> "If" most of your classmates did not go to college,
> that means the "most" do not make a whole lot of
> money....
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Author: Maren at googleMaren at google Date: Feb 29, 2008 08:30
On Feb 27, 4:40 pm, "Jerry Okamura" hawaii.rr.com> wrote:> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in messagenews:1204151100-
> sch@news.lava.net...
>>> I'm not sure
>> that my classmates in HS who mostly did not go to
>> college-- not that there's anything wrong with that--
>> would have the interest in politics or the funds to
>> make large political donations.
>
> "If" most of your classmates did not go to college, that means the
> "most" do
> not make a whole lot of money....
Follows how?
I'm pretty sure my plumber makes more than me and I have a
graduate degree (science). And he can afford not to show up,
I can't.
Maren
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Author: Jerry OkamuraJerry Okamura Date: Feb 29, 2008 17:40
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
news:1204302602-sch@news.lava.net...>
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> "Kay Cee" comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:1204166401-sch@news.lava.net...
>>>>> Punahou does offers a few programs for families with
>>> financial needs (even back then.) The good senator
>>> apologized because he doesn't want to be stuck in
>>> right field when Obama becomes president.
>>
>> Do you really believe that ANY senior Senator from
>> ANY state is going to suffer greatly if THYEY DO NOT
>> apologize?
>
> Quite true. In fact, Obama might have to deal with Sen
> Inouye as the chairperson of the committees he sits on.
> ...
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Author: Jerry OkamuraJerry Okamura Date: Feb 29, 2008 17:45
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jerry Okamura wrote:
>
>> That is pretty obvious [that you get that impression
>> from what Inouye said], but I doubt if there are many
>> who live in the islands that don't believe [Punahou
>> Schools] are an "elist" school.
>
> Everybody believes that their school is special.
Being "special" and being "elite" are two different things. Do you think
that the students of any purblic school thinls they are "elite"?
But it
> doesn't mean that they think that they are better
> persons than anybody else.
They may not "think" they are any better, but there "are" better because
only the smartest and brightest are accepted into the school....
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