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Re: Hawaii to be national renewable energy example?         

Group: soc.culture.hawaii · Group Profile
Author: Alvin E. Toda
Date: Feb 14, 2008 21:20

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Maren at google wrote:
> During combustion ethanol reacts with oxygen to
> produce carbon dioxide, water, and heat: (other air
> pollutants are also produced when ethanol is burned
> in the atmosphere rather than in pure oxygen)
> C2H6O + 3O2 -> 2CO2 + 3H2O Together, these two
> equations add up to the following:
> C6H12O6 + 6O2 -> 6CO2 + 6H2O + heat
>
> end of quote)
>
> How can you burn something (hydro-)carbon based
> without producing CO2? (unless you have incomplete
> combustion in which case you get CO which is worse)

Of course that is the case. But they are both products
that take carbon dioxide out of the air-- ethanol and
vegetable oil. That makes it Carbon neutral. Perhaps
this article will state it better

http://spectrum.ieee.org/jan08/5866

Here's a short excerpt:

"The first step would be to capture the carbon dioxide
from sources where it is concentrated, such as power
plants and industrial smokestacks, says James E.
Miller, a chemical engineer who is one of the lead
researchers on Sandias Sunshine to Petrol project. But
the ultimate goal would be to snatch it out of the air
to yield carbon-neutral liquid fuel, he says."

This is a process that just uses sunshine which we have
a lot in Hawaii to produce ethanol from the CO2 in the
air. It's a little different from the other
carbon-neutral processes of sugar, cellulosic ethanol
or algae vegetable oil.
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