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Author: philip_b_taylorphilip_b_taylor Date: May 19, 2008 19:50
For years now my small consultancy business has operated
internationally, including several US states. We declare all our world-
wide income in our home country (UK) and pay the business taxes due
there. No other country or US state has ever asked my company to pay
additional taxes on our earnings.
That is, until Hawaii. We provided a few days consultancy effort
during a visit to Hawaii.
I have been astonished to be told by the Hawaii State Tax Office that
*all* companies, whatever
their country of origin, and whether or nor they have a Hawaii office
or any Hawaii-based employees, must pay 4%% GET on any Hawaii-based
business activity.
This can't be true - if it is, this would make Hawaii unique in the
world, in my experience. Do the people in the tax office know what
they are talking about? Can they really impose a double
tax burden on foreign companies with no base in Hawaii? And how could
they legally enforce this anyway?
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Author: al Guacamoleal Guacamole Date: May 20, 2008 19:25
> For years now my small consultancy business has operated
> internationally, including several US states. We declare all our
> world-
> wide income in our home country (UK) and pay the business taxes due
> there. No other country or US state has ever asked my company to pay
> additional taxes on our earnings.
>
> That is, until Hawaii. We provided a few days consultancy effort
> during a visit to Hawaii.
>
> I have been astonished to be told by the Hawaii State Tax Office that
> *all* companies, whatever
> their country of origin, and whether or nor they have a Hawaii office
> or any Hawaii-based employees, must pay 4%% GET on any Hawaii-based
> business activity.
>
> This can't be true - if it is, this would make Hawaii unique in the
> world, in my experience. Do the people in the tax office know what
> they are talking about? Can they really impose a double ...
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Author: philip_b_taylorphilip_b_taylor Date: May 22, 2008 08:40
On 21 May, 03:25, al Guacamole lava.net> wrote:
> On May 19, 4:50 pm, philip_b_tay...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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>> For years now my small consultancy business has operated
>> internationally, including several US states. We declare all our
>> world-
>> wide income in our home country (UK) and pay the business taxes due
>> there. No other country or US state has ever asked my company to pay
>> additional taxes on our earnings.
>
>> That is, until Hawaii. We provided a few days consultancy effort
>> during a visit to Hawaii.
>
>> I have been astonished to be told by the Hawaii State Tax Office that
>> *all* companies, whatever
>> their country of origin, and whether or nor they have a Hawaii office
>> or any Hawaii-based employees, must pay 4%% GET on any Hawaii-based
>> business activity. ...
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Author: Jerry OkamuraJerry Okamura Date: May 22, 2008 13:25
yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 21 May, 03:25, al Guacamole lava.net> wrote:
>> On May 19, 4:50 pm, philip_b_tay...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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>>> For years now my small consultancy business has operated
>>> internationally, including several US states. We declare all our
>>> world-
>>> wide income in our home country (UK) and pay the business taxes due
>>> there. No other country or US state has ever asked my company to pay
>>> additional taxes on our earnings.
>>
>>> That is, until Hawaii. We provided a few days consultancy effort
>>> during a visit to Hawaii.
>>
>>> I have been astonished to be told by the Hawaii State Tax Office that
>>> *all* companies, whatever ...
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Author: Maren at googleMaren at google Date: May 22, 2008 21:30
On May 22, 10:25 am, "Jerry Okamura" hawaii.rr.com>
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> yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On 21 May, 03:25, al Guacamole lava.net> wrote:
>>> On May 19, 4:50 pm, philip_b_tay...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>>>> No other country or US state has ever asked my company to pay
>>>> additional taxes on our earnings.
[...]
>>>> I have been astonished to be told by the Hawaii State Tax Office
>>>> that
>>>> *all*...
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Author: al Guacamoleal Guacamole Date: May 25, 2008 14:25
On May 22, 6:30 pm, Maren at google jach.hawaii.edu> wrote:
>>> I did have business activity - I provided consultancy in Hawaii
>>> for a short period, as a visitor.
>
> If you were physically present at the time they probably count that.
> You had a physical presence in Hawaii at the time.
The GET tax people with the state know all the subtle nuances of this
tax-- even better than income tax preparers. Don't look to the tax
form payment document to help you if you seek a lower GET rate or an
exemption. In the case of an Oahu presence, I can verify the above. If
you deliver to a Honolulu customer, then you have a presence in
Honolulu and owe the half point extra in the GET.
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Author: al Guacamoleal Guacamole Date: May 25, 2008 14:25
On May 22, 6:30 pm, Maren at google jach.hawaii.edu> wrote:
> If you were physically present at the time they probably count that.
> You had a physical presence in Hawaii at the time.
That's true. The difference is subtle. And the tax payment document
doesn't discuss these issues of interpretation. However, the friendly
tax guy in the GET branch of state tax office is probably more
knowledgeable about circumstances of lower GET rate or exemptions than
most income tax preparers.
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Author: BobBob Date: Jun 4, 2008 18:05
You might want to move this to another board, such as
misc.taxes.moderated,
but as I understand the law, you provided a service to someone in
Hawaii who
paid you for that service. The fact that you don't have an office in
Hawaii
is irrelevant; you did business in Hawaii. Services are taxable in
Hawaii
(and some other states as well, e.g., Washington). It's possible that
UK
tax authorities will give you a credit against your taxes there for
the tax
you paid in Hawaii.
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> On 21 May, 03:25, al Guacamole lava.net> wrote:
>> On May 19, 4:50 pm, philip_b_tay...@ yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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