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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Dec 5, 2007 11:40
I guess now all hives near ports and the airports need
to be exterminated ("zoosanitary"?). I have received a
copy of the following email complaint to the
legislature on the "HDOA" from a beekeeper volunteer.
What's HDOA? Don't know... Sounds like Hawaii
Department of Agriculture...
"Subject: This hive was positive for Varroa mites in
downtown and the Super Ferry is in port
"Aloha Senator Tokuda, Representative Tsuji et colleg:
Last Tuesday afternoon, November 26, we removed a large
hive of bees from a pipe flange on the roof of 206
Merchant Street, which is literally a stone's throw
from where the Super Ferry was berthed at the time. . .
and had been berthed for about 2 weeks.
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Dec 6, 2007 10:30
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Nai`a wrote:
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> Alvin E. Toda wrote:
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>> "Subject: This hive was positive for Varroa mites in
>> downtown and the Super Ferry is in port
>
> So's Matson. So's Young Bros.
>
> This is getting pathetic.
Why inspect for Matson and Young Bros, and not for the
super ferry?
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Author: Nai`aNai`a Date: Dec 6, 2007 13:05
Alvin E. Toda wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Nai`a wrote:
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>> Alvin E. Toda wrote:
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>>> "Subject: This hive was positive for Varroa mites in
>>> downtown and the Super Ferry is in port
>>
>> So's Matson. So's Young Bros.
>>
>> This is getting pathetic.
>
> Why inspect for Matson and Young Bros, and not for the
> super ferry?
Why not bring Matson and Young Bros up to the same level as the SuperFerry
FIRST, and THEN we'll have this discussion.
Until then, I will leave the Mouth of the Machine to debate himself.
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Dec 6, 2007 15:40
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Nai`a wrote:
> Alvin E. Toda wrote:
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>> Why inspect for Matson and Young Bros, and not for
>> the super ferry?
>
> Why not bring Matson and Young Bros up to the same
> level as the SuperFerry FIRST, and THEN we'll have
> this discussion.
You mean have no state inspections for Matson and Young
Bros?
I've just got the following email about a tomato virus
that has been discovered in Mexico. It's spread by
white flies which are common in our yards. Is the Super
Ferry going to spread it arround the islands? We may be
able to replace the plants by the commercial GM variety
in the future, but until then a lot of tomatoes will
die on Oahu-- when it gets here?
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Dec 8, 2007 19:25
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Helen Rapozo wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Alvin E. Toda wrote:
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>> I've just got the following email about a tomato
>> virus that has been discovered in Mexico. It's
>> spread by white flies which are common in our yards.
>> Is the Super Ferry going to spread it arround the
>> islands? We may be able to replace the plants by the
>> commercial GM variety in the future, but until then
>> a lot of tomatoes will die on Oahu-- when it gets
>> here?
>>
> How does a virus in Mexico gets to Hawaii in the
> first place? The SuperFerry doesn't run between
> Mexico and Hawaii.
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Dec 8, 2007 19:25
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Hertz Donut wrote:
> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
> news:1196965800-sch@news.lava.net...>>
>> Why inspect for Matson and Young Bros, and not for
>> the super ferry?
>>
>
> Why do you continue to single out the Super Ferry?
> It has been pointed out to you numerous times by
> numerous people that it is no more a threat than any
> other vessel operating in the inter-island channels.
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Author: Maren at googleMaren at google Date: Dec 8, 2007 19:25
On Dec 6, 1:40 pm, "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote:> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Nai`a wrote:
>> Alvin E. Toda wrote:
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>>> Why inspect for Matson and Young Bros, and not for
>>> the super ferry?
>
>> Why not bring Matson and Young Bros up to the same
>> level as the SuperFerry FIRST, and THEN we'll have
>> this discussion.
>
> You mean have no state inspections for Matson and Young
> Bros?
we do?
> I've just got the following email about a tomato virus
> that has been discovered in Mexico. It's spread by
> white flies which are common in our yards. Is the Super
> Ferry going to spread it arround the islands? We may be
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Author: Lawrence AkutagawaLawrence Akutagawa Date: Dec 10, 2007 08:15
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
news:1197170700-sch@news.lava.net...>
> On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Helen Rapozo wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Alvin E. Toda wrote:
>>>
>>> I've just got the following email about a tomato virus that has been
>>> discovered in Mexico. It's spread by white flies which are common in our
>>> yards. Is the Super Ferry going to spread it arround the islands? We may
>>> be able to replace the plants by the commercial GM variety in the
>>> future, but until then a lot of tomatoes will die on Oahu-- when it gets
>>> here?
>>>
>> How does a virus in Mexico gets to Hawaii in the first place? The
>> SuperFerry doesn't run between Mexico and Hawaii.
>
> First it rides up to LA on leaves with white flies.
> When it has established itself there like africanized
> bees and that virus that's in mosquitoes, then it can ...
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Dec 10, 2007 08:15
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, Maren at google wrote:
> Oahu is hardly the agricultural place you think it
> is. It is probably the island through which just
> about anything is carried in, but I think we have
> more agricultural production on the Big Island,
> Kauai, Maui, Molokai,Lanai, (vaguely in order of my
> perception, not substantiated n any way)
Actually, Oahu have large prime agricultural lands that
would better be kept in agriculture than for real
estate development. And that is true of the outer
islands as well. Unless there is some incentive for
keeping these lands in agriculture, they will be used
for other purposes. But if we want to retain that use
we need to be aware (actually it should be obvious or
common sense) that it is very easy to spread all kinds
of diseases throughout the islands with the super ferry
because people take their personal possessions with
them in their cars and the cars have no state
inspection.
> And do we know where it came from or where it has
> spread to so far? And how it got there? - And how
> many people lie on the AG survey on the plane over?
> I'm not just talking about carrying noxious...
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