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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Jan 31, 2008 18:15
This is a message that has been forwarded to many
beekeepers in the state. Just sharing it. I think that
the extermination on Oahu might have been successful
because I have only seen one bee in the last four weeks
and I killed it-- out here in PC. Of course, you only
need one surviving bee to start the whole thing up
again. So the hive from which the bee came from should
be exterminated if it is not already infested and dead
by now from the varroa mite.
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Cc: Garnett Puett ; 'Howard McGinnis' ; 'Hawaiian Queen Co. Inc.' ; mmkliks@ hawaii.rr.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:22 AM
Subject: Comments on SB2586 Apiary Act of 2008
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Author: Lawrence AkutagawaLawrence Akutagawa Date: Feb 1, 2008 12:40
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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> This is a message that has been forwarded to many
> beekeepers in the state. Just sharing it. I think that
> the extermination on Oahu might have been successful
> because I have only seen one bee in the last four weeks
> and I killed it-- out here in PC. Of course, you only
> need one surviving bee to start the whole thing up
> again. So the hive from which the bee came from should
> be exterminated if it is not already infested and dead
> by now from the varroa mite.
/msg snipped/
Alvin -
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Feb 2, 2008 14:54
On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
> By the way - killing one worker bee is like killing
> that one ant you found on the kitchen counter.
> Makes you feel really good, but the hive/ nest lives
> on. And just any one surviving bee does not "start
> the whole thing up again" - you need a very specific
> bee with which to "start the whole thing up
> again"....a fertile queen, as per
> http://www.uni.uiuc.edu/~stone2/bee_life_stages.html
> . And you won't find such a fertile queen flying
> around by her lonesome, as per
> http://www.ent.uga.edu/bees/bee_pubs/walls/bees_in_walls.htm
> . At least, that the way bees behave in the reality
> in which most of us others live.
Larry, Larry, Larry, you have such a litteral mind. I
was referring here to the varroa mite. It should be
obvious to anyone but you.
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Author: Lawrence AkutagawaLawrence Akutagawa Date: Feb 3, 2008 11:54
"Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 1 Feb 2008, Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:
>
>> By the way - killing one worker bee is like killing that one ant you
>> found on the kitchen counter. Makes you feel really good, but the hive/
>> nest lives on. And just any one surviving bee does not "start the whole
>> thing up again" - you need a very specific bee with which to "start the
>> whole thing up again"....a fertile queen, as per
>> http://www.uni.uiuc.edu/~stone2/bee_life_stages.html . And you won't
>> find such a fertile queen flying around by her lonesome, as per
>> http://www.ent.uga.edu/bees/bee_pubs/walls/bees_in_walls.htm . At least,
>> that the way bees behave in the reality in which most of us others live. >
> Larry, Larry, Larry, you have such a litteral mind. I
> was referring here to the varroa mite. It should be
> obvious to anyone but you.
>
> Bees will quite often come accross a hive when they ...
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Author: Maren at googleMaren at google Date: Feb 4, 2008 09:04
On Feb 1, 10:40 am, "Lawrence Akutagawa" sbcglobal.net>
wrote:> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in messagenews:1201832103-sch@news.lava.net...
>>> This is a message that has been forwarded to many
>> beekeepers in the state. Just sharing it. I think that
>> the extermination on Oahu might have been successful
>> because I have only seen one bee in the last four weeks
>> and I killed it-- out here in PC. Of course, you only
>> need one surviving bee to start the whole thing up
>> again. So the hive from which the bee came from should
>> be exterminated if it is not already infested and dead
>> by now from the varroa mite.
> By the way - killing one worker bee is like killing that one ant you
> found
> on the kitchen counter. Makes you feel really good, but the hive/
> nest lives
> on.
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Author: Lawrence AkutagawaLawrence Akutagawa Date: Feb 4, 2008 10:19
"Maren at google" jach.hawaii.edu> wrote in message
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> On Feb 1, 10:40 am, "Lawrence Akutagawa" sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:>> "Alvin E. Toda" lava.net> wrote in
>> messagenews:1201832103-sch@news.lava.net...
>>>>> This is a message that has been forwarded to many
>>> beekeepers in the state. Just sharing it. I think that
>>> the extermination on Oahu might have been successful
>>> because I have only seen one bee in the last four weeks
>>> and I killed it-- out here in PC. Of course, you only
>>> need one surviving bee to start the whole thing up
>>> again. So the hive from which the bee came from should
>>> be exterminated if it is not already infested and dead
>>> by now from the varroa mite.
>
>> By the way - killing one worker bee is like killing that one ant you
>> found ...
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Author: Alvin E. TodaAlvin E. Toda Date: Feb 4, 2008 12:59
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, Maren at google wrote:
> BTW, eradicating bees IMHO may solve the problem of
> the varroa mite infestation, but it doesn't solve the
> problem that the varroa mite created: a lack of bees.
>
> Exterminating the hive where the bee came from
> doesn't solve anything unless you know that there are
> varroa mites. If there are varroa mites, eradicate
> them. If there aren't let them live and keep
> checking. And, for crying out loud, you're supposed
> ot kill the mites, whether you kill the bees with
> them or not. Killing the bees and letting the mites
> live isn't going to solve anything.
Yes. There are tests that can be done. And beekeepers--
some at least-- would rather that the bees lives.
They'll even try medication although that may taint the
honey.
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