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Re: Both Sustainble energy/Trash shipping         


Author: teslafan
Date: Jul 23, 2008 18:35

Hi from Huntington Beach, SoCal! Am into alternative sustainable enrgy
(See the alternative energy website www.Peswiki.com Nikola tesla /
Global Energy Independence day which I founded on Nikola teslas
Birthdate July 10th and which Los Angeles has adopted and made the
ENTIRE month of July Energy Independence Month") Now, useing trash as
fuel? Why not? some trash can be used for a low emession fuel. Boil
water make steam make energy! Why isnt someone doing this in Hawai'i?
P.S. See Tesla Society website www.teslasociety.com for more On Telsa/
Global Energy Independence Day/Month(Why doesnt your state have this
too?) Bye Aloha! Dr. Edson Andre' Johnson D.D. Surf City USA
HUntington Beach, California
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Re: Both Sustainble energy/Trash shipping         


Author: al Guacamole
Date: Jul 25, 2008 17:05

On Jul 23, 3:35 pm, teslafan gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi from Huntington Beach, SoCal! Am into alternative sustainable enrgy
> (See the alternative energy websitewww.Peswiki.comNikola tesla /
> Global Energy Independence day which I founded on Nikola teslas
> Birthdate July 10th and which Los Angeles has adopted and made the
> ENTIRE month of July Energy Independence Month") Now, useing trash as
> fuel? Why not? some trash can be used for a low emession fuel. Boil
> water make steam make energy! Why isnt someone doing this in Hawai'i?

Actually, we are. This is why the city dump near Kahe Point is lasting
so long. Trash is burned to generate power and only the ash is put
into the dump. BTW I share your admiration of Tesla. Not only an
inventor like Edison, he made a number scientific discoveries.
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Re: Both Sustainble energy/Trash shipping         


Author: Maren at google
Date: Jul 27, 2008 11:40

On Jul 25, 2:05 pm, al Guacamole lava.net> wrote:
> On Jul 23, 3:35 pm, teslafan gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi from Huntington Beach, SoCal! Am into alternative sustainable enrgy
>> (See the alternative energy websitewww.Peswiki.comNikolatesla /
>> Global Energy Independence day which I founded on Nikola teslas
>> Birthdate July 10th and which Los Angeles has adopted and made the
>> ENTIRE month of July Energy Independence Month") Now, useing trash as
>> fuel? Why not? some trash can be used for a low emession fuel. Boil
>> water make steam make energy! Why isnt someone doing this in Hawai'i?
>
> Actually, we are. This is why the city dump near Kahe Point is lasting
> so long. Trash is burned to generate power and only the ash is put
> into the dump. BTW I share your...
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p.s. and OT: Re: Both Sustainble energy/Trash shipping         


Author: Maren at google
Date: Jul 27, 2008 13:20

On Jul 23, 3:35 pm, teslafan gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi from Huntington Beach, SoCal! Am into alternative sustainable enrgy
> (See the alternative energy websitewww.Peswiki.comNikola tesla /

if you had posted the URL in a way that works when clicking on it
(from
e.g. Firefox) you'd have a better chance of people looking at it,
and ...
outside the physics and engineering community/communities I doubt
you'll find a whole lot of people who even know the name Nikola Tesla
- the inventor of alternating current. -

Maren
(physicist by education)
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(Sustainable Hawaii) Re: Both Sustainble energy/Trash shipping         


Author: al Guacamole
Date: Jul 28, 2008 08:15

On Jul 27, 8:40 am, Maren at google jach.hawaii.edu> wrote:
> A trash incinerator was proposed for Hilo, but there's so much
> opposition
> that for the time being it's been either dropped or just about
> dropped.
> In spite of our landfill on this side being just about full and a
> rather large
> fraction of our electricity being generated from imported (at least
> into
> the state) oil. Everybody wants the electricity, but all new
> generating
> plants meet with strong opposition, be it trash incineration or wood
> processing waste incineration. One of the plants would be re-using
> the site of the former Hamakua Coast Processing plants that used to
> generate electricity from bagasse left over from sugar processing, but
> the former sugar cane field in the meantime were sold as "Gentleman
> Farm" estates.

Even the Kahe plant on Oahu which gets power from burning trash has
been strongly opposed by a nearby fancy Ko Olina development.
Currently, they can smell the trash and the burning from miles away
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Re: (Sustainable Hawaii) Re: Both Sustainble energy/Trash         


Author: al Guacamole
Date: Aug 4, 2008 07:30

On Aug 1, 3:50 pm, Maren at google jach.hawaii.edu> wrote:
> cane was burned in the field, not in a plant. I remember it well.
> The smell and ash carried for miles.
>
> Maren

The leaves of the cane are burned in the field. Not the stalk. At the
mill the stalks are drained of cane juice and excess stalk is burned
to power the machinery at the mill and cook off liquid from the juice
in creating a syrup. How do I know this? I grew up near a sugar mill.
A lot of ash came out the smoke stack. This practice goes back to a
time when the power company did not provide the power to process the
stalks. This practice may not be tolerated today. In fact, in recent
times the sugar mill provided electrical power to the community
through cogeneration from the power generated by burning the stalks.
It would have been difficult to shut down the mill just for the
annoying ash that came out the smokestack in the neighborhood of the
mill.
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