This thread is the descendant of two earlier exchages to be found here:
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.haiti/browse_thread/thread/cc3d8825f48381c5/c7017d966342a26b...#c7017d966342a26b
(Vodou Herbalist Working in Jacmel, Haiti -offers instruction)
and
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.haiti/browse_thread/thread/bc57b5df2aebf35b/2166d56e3883b06c...#2166d56e3883b06c
("God", "Our Lady" and the War in the Middle-East )
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Jules wrote:
"Do you understand that Moses wrote of Jesus Christ?"
I understand that this is what some Christian denominations teach.
" Do you understand that the first books known to have ever been
written by man are the books of Moses and the book of Job?"
No Jules, this claim is not based on up-to-date knowledge of human
history. Instead, it seats in the realm of Christian faith as per the
link
http://www.dianedew.com/wrtnword.htm which you have provided in
the that makes exclusive use of citations of the Bible to support of
claims made by the Bible itself. It's like asking you to vouch for
your own statements - not very logical, I am afraid.
Here is an interesting discussion on early human writings
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=003911
where Dr. Clyde Winters gives compelling evidence for Tartarian
writings
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Bay/7051/MAGYAR.htm which,
among others, predate the Christian texts.
In terms of old religious writings compiled in one book found in its
original format, the Egyptian "Book of Coming Forth by Day"
http://www.touregypt.net/bkofdead.htm which is dated cerca 1240 BC, it
is definitely older than the compilation imposed by the Roman
authorities following a vote (24 to 15 with 16 abstentions) on De
Canonicis Scripturis at the Council of Trent (April 8, 1546 A.D) and
which ultimately yielded variants of one book or "Bible",
considered by Christians to be the infallible word of God
http://www.ntcanon.org/closing-west.shtml .
Please note also that a lot of blood have been spilled particularly
over the claimed authenticity of the Books of Moses. In Viv Bondye! Aba
Relijyon! (2000), I summarized this sad episode of human history as
follows:
"In the Second Book of Laws or Deteronomy, we learn that Moses himself
wrote the entire Book of Laws. Let us read: "So Moses wrote down
this law and gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi...".
Deuteronomy 31:9
Yet, in the same book where Moses supposedly wrote these words, we
also read:
"And Moses the servant of the LORD died there in Moab, as the LORD
had said. 6 He buried him [b] in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth
Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. 7 Moses was a
hundred and twenty years old when he died, yet his eyes were not weak
nor his strength gone" Deuteronomy 34:5-7
The church big shots soon realized this unfortunate contradiction. In
the beginning of the 1900s a Pontifical Biblical Commission (
http://www.stjeromebiblicalguild.org/pbc062706.pdf )decided to resolve
the problem by force and issued a decree which certified that it is
indeed Moses who wrote the whole book of Deteronomy AND THAT IS THAT
- end of discussion. Moses described his own death and burial. So be
it. One does not need to be a great researcher to understand that, for
all its forcefullness, the Pontifical Bible Commission was promoting a
bold lie. Afterall, how could it have been Moses himself who would have
written the following: "The Israelites grieved for Moses in the
plains of Moab thirty days, until the time of weeping and mourning was
over... 10 Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom
the LORD knew face to face" Deuteronomy 34:8 & 10.
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Original quote from Viv Bondye! Aba Relijyon! (2000)
Moyiz rakonte pwòp lanmò ak lantèman li (Se sa lèzòm dekrete kòm
laverite «Pawòl Bondye»!):
Nan liv yo rele Dezyèm Liv Lalwa a osnon Detewonòm, nou aprann se
Moyiz ki ekri tout Lalwa a. Annou li: "Apresa, Moyiz ekri tout Lalwa
a, epi li remèt li bay prèt yo..." (Detewonòm 31 vèsè 9).
Poutan, nan menm liv Moyiz sipozeman ekri sa a, nou li pawòl sa yo:
"Se la Moyiz, sèvitè seyè a, te mouri nan peyi Mowab la, jan seyè
a te di li ap mouri a...lè Moyiz mouri li te gen sanventan..."
(Detewonòm 34 vèsè 5 ak 7). Gwo chabrak legliz yo te remake
kontradiksyon demeplè sa a depi byen lontan. Nan kòmansman ane 1900
yo, yon Komisyon Biblik Pontifikal deside rezoud sa gwoponyètman ak
yon dekrè ki sètifye karebare se Moyiz menm ki ekri tout liv Lalwa
yo. Kidonk, se fini! Moyiz dekri pwòp lanmò ak lantèman li.
Ensiswatil! Yon moun pa bezwen gran fouyapòt pou ou konprann,
gwoponyèt ou pa, dekrè Komisyon Biblik Pontifikal la nan manti.
Paske, li klè, se pa fouti Moyiz ki ekri koze tankou: "Moun pèp
Izrayèl yo pase trant jou nan plenn Mowab yo ap kriye lanmò li
(Moyiz)...Depi lè sa a, pa janm gen lòt pwofèt konsa ankò ki parèt
nan mitan pèp Izrayèl la tankou Moyiz..." (Detewonòm 34 vèsè 8
ak 10).