> "_ Prof. Jonez _" jonez.net> wrote:

>> Larry wrote:

>>> In article rac1.wam.umd.edu>, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
>>> wrote:
>>>

>>>> In article
>>>> earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>, Larry
>>>> y.com> wrote:

>>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" jonez.net> wrote:

>>>>>> tjab wrote:

>>>>>>> Larry y.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" jonez.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> In article rac3.wam.umd.edu>, tjab@wam.umd.edu
>>>>>>>>>> (tjab) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 11:07:19 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ jonez.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 01:02:59 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:40:32 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I never mentioned New York? That's so demonstrably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> false I'm still laughing. Anytime I speak in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything resembling a specific, I make it clear that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring to NY statutes. I've never claimed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know the details of criminal statutes in other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jurisdictions." -- Larry Glasser the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pathological Liar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you offer evidence to prove your claim that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry who posts is Larry Glasser?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen evidence that gives reason to suspect he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, but you've listed Larry Glasser as being the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> author of the quote. Please present the proof you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have that they are the same person. If you prefer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admit you're lying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at best, you're guessing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the same about the racist posts you falsely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to Jonez, but I'd leave off the 'at best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're guessing part,' seeing as how you were just flat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out lying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You've seen some, but not all, of the evidence.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're lying again, you pathological prevaricator.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technically, Kent is a compulsive liar, not a pathological
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one.

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a bit of a racist post from your hero (MID is
>>>>>>>>>>>> included so context can be verified. Something Jonezie
>>>>>>>>>>>> NEVER permits):

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> =========

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <6b3i56F2svfk5U1@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>> =========
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This still doesn't compose 100%% of the evidence, of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course.

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Comprise. Not a flame, just thought that since you claim to
>>>>>>>>>>> be a teacher, you should know that.
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> However, even you must accept that your hero is a racist.
>>>>>>>>>>>> He proudly displays it often enough.

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonezie:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deadrat:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jonezie:
>>>>>>>>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Prof. Jonez expressing his racial HATE for Native
>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans.

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I see sarcasm here, not hatred. After all, the first
>>>>>>>>>>> reference by Jonez is to Native Americans. The context also
>>>>>>>>>>> suggests sarcasm. But Jonez has never been shy about
>>>>>>>>>>> expressing unpopular or politically incorrect opinions. If
>>>>>>>>>>> he really does hate Native Americans I suspect he will post
>>>>>>>>>>> here and correct my misapprehensions.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (I suspect Deadrat also saw Jonez's comment as sarcasm,
>>>>>>>>>>> being as how he never challenged him on it.)

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You don't think calling an entire race of people "Savage" is
>>>>>>>>>> racist?

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Palestinians are like crocodiles ...."
>>>>>>>>> -EhudBarak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28,
>>>>>>>>> 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
>>>>>>>>> - Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset,
>>>>>>>>> quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Palestinians "would be crushed like grasshoppers ...
>>>>>>>>> heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
>>>>>>>>> - Isreali Prime Minister, Itzhak Shamir, in a speech to
>>>>>>>>> Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to
>>>>>>>>> do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches
>>>>>>>>> in a bottle." - Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli
>>>>>>>>> Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned
>>>>>>>>> to live here as slaves."
>>>>>>>>> - Chairman Heilbrun, Committee for the Re-election of
>>>>>>>>> General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "These people are niggers in spite of the thin varnish of
>>>>>>>>> education and refinement."
>>>>>>>>> - US General Littleton Waller, referring to Haitians
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Imagine!, Niggers speaking French!"
>>>>>>>>> - US Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan, referring to
>>>>>>>>> Haitians

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're deflecting your own racist and bigoted statements by
>>>>>>>> citing racist and bigoted statements made by others 20+ years
>>>>>>>> ago? Do you really think that's an effective strategy?

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For Jonez, probably so, since he got you to call Itzhak Shamir
>>>>>>> (sp?) a racist bigot.

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing !

>>>>>
>>>>> By the same "ziiiiiing" token, tjab just admitted you made racist
>>>>> and bigoted statements!
>>>>>
>>>>> But Shamir's statement was no more racist than a current US
>>>>> soldier saying "we're going to crush the Sunnis and Shiites in
>>>>> Iraq."

>>>>
>>>> ""
>>>>
>>>> You don't think it's bigotry to say "we're going to crush the
>>>> Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq?"

>>>
>>> Of course not. That's who we're fighting. Everyone understands
>>> that it doesn't mean we're going to crush every one who practices
>>> those religions, regardless of whether they actually oppose us or
>>> not. It's just another way of saying "the enemy in this particular
>>> battle."

>>
>> Kind of like the way the German National Socialists used the word Jew
>> as "just another way of saying the enemy in this particular battle",
>> eh Larry?

>
> No, not at all, because they used the word Jew to mean every Jew,
> regardless of whether that particular human being did anything against
> them or not.