> "_ Prof. Jonez _" jonez.net> wrote:

>> tjab wrote:

>>> Larry y.com> wrote:

>>>> "_ Prof. Jonez _" jonez.net> wrote:

>>>>> Larry wrote:

>>>>>> In article rac3.wam.umd.edu>, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>> Kent Wills gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 11:07:19 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:

>>>>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ jonez.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 01:02:59 -0400, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:40:32 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I never mentioned New York? That's so demonstrably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> false I'm still laughing. Anytime I speak in anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resembling a specific, I make it clear that I'm referring
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to NY statutes. I've never claimed to know the details of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal statutes in other jurisdictions." -- Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Glasser the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pathological Liar

>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you offer evidence to prove your claim that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry who posts is Larry Glasser?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen evidence that gives reason to suspect he is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but you've listed Larry Glasser as being the author of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quote. Please present the proof you have that they are the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> same person. If you prefer, you may admit you're lying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at best, you're guessing.

>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the same about the racist posts you falsely
>>>>>>>>>>>> attributed to Jonez, but I'd leave off the 'at best you're
>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing part,' seeing as how you were just flat out lying.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You've seen some, but not all, of the evidence.

>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You're lying again, you pathological prevaricator.

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Technically, Kent is a compulsive liar, not a pathological
>>>>>>>>> one.

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here's a bit of a racist post from your hero (MID is
>>>>>>>> included so context can be verified. Something Jonezie NEVER
>>>>>>>> permits):

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> =========

>>>>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...

>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <6b3i56F2svfk5U1@mid.individual.net>
>>>>>>>> =========
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This still doesn't compose 100%% of the evidence, of course.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comprise. Not a flame, just thought that since you claim to be a
>>>>>>> teacher, you should know that.
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> However, even you must accept that your hero is a racist. He
>>>>>>>> proudly displays it often enough.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again, I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jonezie:

>>>>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deadrat:

>>>>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?

>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jonezie:
>>>>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prof. Jonez expressing his racial HATE for Native Americans.

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see sarcasm here, not hatred. After all, the first reference
>>>>>>> by Jonez is to Native Americans. The context also suggests
>>>>>>> sarcasm. But Jonez has never been shy about expressing unpopular
>>>>>>> or politically incorrect opinions. If he really does hate Native
>>>>>>> Americans I suspect he will post here and correct my
>>>>>>> misapprehensions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (I suspect Deadrat also saw Jonez's comment as sarcasm, being as
>>>>>>> how he never challenged him on it.)

>>>>>>
>>>>>> You don't think calling an entire race of people "Savage" is
>>>>>> racist?

>>>>>
>>>>> "The Palestinians are like crocodiles ...."
>>>>> -EhudBarak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28,
>>>>> 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
>>>>>
>>>>> "[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
>>>>> - Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset,
>>>>> quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Palestinians "would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads
>>>>> smashed against the boulders and walls."
>>>>> - Isreali Prime Minister, Itzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish
>>>>> settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
>>>>>
>>>>> "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do
>>>>> about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a
>>>>> bottle." - Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence
>>>>> Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to
>>>>> live here as slaves."
>>>>> - Chairman Heilbrun, Committee for the Re-election of
>>>>> General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983
>>>>>
>>>>> "These people are niggers in spite of the thin varnish of
>>>>> education and refinement."
>>>>> - US General Littleton Waller, referring to Haitians
>>>>>
>>>>> "Imagine!, Niggers speaking French!"
>>>>> - US Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan, referring to
>>>>> Haitians

>>>>
>>>> You're deflecting your own racist and bigoted statements by citing
>>>> racist and bigoted statements made by others 20+ years ago? Do you
>>>> really think that's an effective strategy?

>>>
>>> For Jonez, probably so, since he got you to call Itzhak Shamir (sp?)
>>> a racist bigot.

>>
>> Ziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing !

>
> By the same "ziiiiiing" token, tjab just admitted you made racist and
> bigoted statements!
>
> But Shamir's statement was no more racist than a current US soldier
> saying "we're going to crush the Sunnis and Shiites in Iraq." Which
> I'm sure jonzey will jump at, but it just ain't racist.