tjab wrote:
>> "_ Prof. Jonez _"
jonez.net> wrote:>>> Larry wrote:
>>>> In article
rac3.wam.umd.edu>, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
>>>> wrote:>>>>> Kent Wills
gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 11:07:19 -0400, tjab@
wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
>>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _
jonez.net> wrote:>>>>>>>> Kent Wills wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 01:02:59 -0400, tjab@
wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills
gmail.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:40:32 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>>>>>>>>>
jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I never mentioned New York? That's so demonstrably false
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm still laughing. Anytime I speak in anything
>>>>>>>>>>>> resembling a specific, I make it clear that I'm referring
>>>>>>>>>>>> to NY statutes. I've never claimed to know the details of
>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal statutes in other jurisdictions." -- Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>> Glasser the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pathological Liar
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you offer evidence to prove your claim that the Larry
>>>>>>>>>>> who posts is Larry Glasser?
>>>>>>>>>>> I have seen evidence that gives reason to suspect he is,
>>>>>>>>>>> but you've listed Larry Glasser as being the author of the
>>>>>>>>>>> quote. Please present the proof you have that they are the
>>>>>>>>>>> same person. If you prefer, you may admit you're lying
>>>>>>>>>>> and that,
>>>>>>>>>>> at best, you're guessing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'd say the same about the racist posts you falsely
>>>>>>>>>> attributed to Jonez, but I'd leave off the 'at best you're
>>>>>>>>>> guessing part,' seeing as how you were just flat out lying.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You've seen some, but not all, of the evidence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're lying again, you pathological prevaricator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Technically, Kent is a compulsive liar, not a pathological one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's a bit of a racist post from your hero (MID is
>>>>>> included so context can be verified. Something Jonezie NEVER
>>>>>> permits):
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>>> =========
>>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message-ID: <6b3i56F2svfk5U1@
mid.individual.net>
>>>>>> =========
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This still doesn't compose 100%% of the evidence, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>> Comprise. Not a flame, just thought that since you claim to be a
>>>>> teacher, you should know that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> However, even you must accept that your hero is a racist. He
>>>>>> proudly displays it often enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jonezie:
>>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deadrat:
>>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jonezie:
>>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prof. Jonez expressing his racial HATE for Native Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> I see sarcasm here, not hatred. After all, the first reference
>>>>> by Jonez is to Native Americans. The context also suggests
>>>>> sarcasm. But Jonez has never been shy about expressing unpopular
>>>>> or politically incorrect opinions. If he really does hate Native
>>>>> Americans I suspect he will post here and correct my
>>>>> misapprehensions.
>>>>>
>>>>> (I suspect Deadrat also saw Jonez's comment as sarcasm, being as
>>>>> how he never challenged him on it.)
>>>>
>>>> You don't think calling an entire race of people "Savage" is
>>>> racist?
>>>
>>> "The Palestinians are like crocodiles ...."
>>> -EhudBarak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000.
>>> Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
>>>
>>> "[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
>>> - Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset,
>>> quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
>>>
>>> "The Palestinians "would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads
>>> smashed against the boulders and walls."
>>> - Isreali Prime Minister, Itzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish
>>> settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
>>>
>>> "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do
>>> about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a
>>> bottle." - Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence
>>> Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
>>>
>>> "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to
>>> live here as slaves."
>>> - Chairman Heilbrun, Committee for the Re-election of
>>> General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983
>>>
>>> "These people are niggers in spite of the thin varnish of
>>> education and refinement."
>>> - US General Littleton Waller, referring to Haitians
>>>
>>> "Imagine!, Niggers speaking French!"
>>> - US Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan, referring to
>>> Haitians
>>
>> You're deflecting your own racist and bigoted statements by citing
>> racist and bigoted statements made by others 20+ years ago? Do you
>> really think that's an effective strategy?
>
> For Jonez, probably so, since he got you to call Itzhak Shamir (sp?)
> a racist bigot.
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