In article earthlink.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net>,
Larry y.com> wrote:
>> Larry wrote:
>>> In article
rac3.wam.umd.edu>, tjab@wam.umd.edu (tjab)
>>> wrote:
>>>> Kent Wills gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 11:07:19 -0400, tjab@
wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
>>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Kent Wills wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9 Jun 2008 01:02:59 -0400, tjab@
wam.umd.edu (tjab) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Kent Wills gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:40:32 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>>>>>>>>>> jonez.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "I never mentioned New York? That's so demonstrably false I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> still laughing. Anytime I speak in anything resembling a
>>>>>>>>>>> specific, I make it clear that I'm referring to NY statutes.
>>>>>>>>>>> I've never claimed to know the details of criminal statutes
>>>>>>>>>>> in other jurisdictions." -- Larry Glasser the
>>>>>>>>>>> Pathological Liar
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you offer evidence to prove your claim that the Larry who
>>>>>>>>>> posts is Larry Glasser?
>>>>>>>>>> I have seen evidence that gives reason to suspect he is, but
>>>>>>>>>> you've listed Larry Glasser as being the author of the quote.
>>>>>>>>>> Please present the proof you have that they are the same
>>>>>>>>>> person. If you prefer, you may admit you're lying and that,
>>>>>>>>>> at best, you're guessing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'd say the same about the racist posts you falsely attributed
>>>>>>>>> to Jonez, but I'd leave off the 'at best you're guessing part,'
>>>>>>>>> seeing as how you were just flat out lying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You've seen some, but not all, of the evidence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're lying again, you pathological prevaricator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Technically, Kent is a compulsive liar, not a pathological one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a bit of a racist post from your hero (MID is included so
>>>>> context can be verified. Something Jonezie NEVER permits):
>>>>
>>>> I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>
>>>>> =========
>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?
>>>>>
>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Message-ID: <6b3i56F2svfk5U1@
mid.individual.net>
>>>>> =========
>>>>>
>>>>> This still doesn't compose 100%% of the evidence, of course.
>>>>
>>>> Comprise. Not a flame, just thought that since you claim to be a
>>>> teacher, you should know that.
>>>>
>>>>> However, even you must accept that your hero is a racist. He
>>>>> proudly displays it often enough.
>>>>
>>>> Again, I have no heroes on usenet.
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jonezie:
>>>>>>> Or you could discuss the holocaust of Native Americans by
>>>>>>> the invading White Man ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deadrat:
>>>>>> Sure. I for Indian or N for Native?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jonezie:
>>>>> S for Savage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Prof. Jonez expressing his racial HATE for Native Americans.
>>>>
>>>> I see sarcasm here, not hatred. After all, the first reference
>>>> by Jonez is to Native Americans. The context also suggests sarcasm.
>>>> But Jonez has never been shy about expressing unpopular or
>>>> politically incorrect opinions. If he really does hate Native
>>>> Americans I suspect he will post here and correct my
>>>> misapprehensions.
>>>>
>>>> (I suspect Deadrat also saw Jonez's comment as sarcasm, being as
>>>> how he never challenged him on it.)
>>>
>>> You don't think calling an entire race of people "Savage" is racist?
>>
>> "The Palestinians are like crocodiles ...."
>> -EhudBarak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000.
>> Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000
>>
>> "[The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs."
>> - Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset,
>> quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
>>
>> "The Palestinians "would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed
>> against the boulders and walls."
>> - Isreali Prime Minister, Itzhak Shamir, in a speech to Jewish settlers
>> New York Times April 1, 1988
>>
>> "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it
>> will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle."
>> - Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces,
>> New York Times, 14 April 1983.
>>
>> "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live
>> here as slaves."
>> - Chairman Heilbrun, Committee for the Re-election of
>> General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983
>>
>> "These people are niggers in spite of the thin varnish of education and
>> refinement."
>> - US General Littleton Waller, referring to Haitians
>>
>> "Imagine!, Niggers speaking French!"
>> - US Secretary of State William Jennings Bryan, referring to Haitians
>
>You're deflecting your own racist and bigoted statements by citing
>racist and bigoted statements made by others 20+ years ago? Do you
>really think that's an effective strategy?
For Jonez, probably so, since he got you to call Itzhak Shamir (sp?)
a racist bigot.